Thread: 3.2 patch is a slap in the face of (omni)crafters (specialist & stat garbage)

Originally Posted by Chiami

So the point of my original post remains, those who invest(ed) into ilvl 180 gear got screwed over, and the new ilvl 180 accessories are a bad joke. Just as all the other points of my post remain, sadly And shall we bet at latest half a year from now 4-star recipes will come with stats that are totally beyond anything but ilvl 170 gear pentamelded with tier V materia and being a specialist?

I'll admit I'm a little surprised that a full i180 set cannot meet the minimum stat requirements for 3*, but Crafting needs to have SOME sort of progression, something it hasn't had for a while. From the start if you correctly melded the white gear you could meet the minimum stat requirements for everything up to and including 2-Stars, which in reality meant there was never a need to get ANY i170 or i180 gear until this patch other than saving some gil.

They're also releasing i180 OHs which will likely cover the stat gap, and if they don't then a i170 OH overmelded + food will meet the minimum cap. That's not a lot to ask, considering how much cheaper the mats are and the fact that we've had MONTHS to obtain i170 gear. I will agree that the i180 Accessories are a joke as they are easily matched or beaten by safe melds on the white accessories.

Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

It's possible to have melded too much Craftsmanship and not enough Control onto your i170 to be able to craft the 3 star stuff.

:P

Originally Posted by Sollux

I'll admit I'm a little surprised that a full i180 set cannot meet the minimum stat requirements for 3*

Except you can. Unless you're not counting 170 accessories, since those don't have 180 versions. But a 180 left side and 170 right side is more than enough to be 3 star ready.

Originally Posted by Nezerius

Except you can't.

Proof: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/SPEM

831 Craftsmanship / 799 Control

There's a new food called an "Oyster Confit" that gives 70 control and 30 craftsmanship normal quality.

So I stand by what I said: Yes you can.

That link doesn't even take into account melds on the accessories though, so again, you've backed my point further. :P

Originally Posted by Mindy_Macready

Actually there are 180 accessories according to data-mining websites. They are full CP - no materia slots, no craft/control. They're pretty laughable.

I think I heard about that but you'd have to be pretty stupid to buy those TBH if you can't meld them.

Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

That a means of removing all the Materia from an item exists in game does not invalidate my point : that without having known what the craft/control req's were going to be, it is entirely possible that people, months ago, used T4 Materia and got too much craft, not enough control, in their melds.

That circumstance is a failed attempt at the future-proofing someone was scoffing at someone else for not having done.

Melds are easily fixable and that's honestly a terrible point. If you melded before this patch you should have known the risks in doing so. I also find it super farfetched that anyone who crafts is too poor to fix some melds. So again: their own fault.

Originally Posted by Nezerius

Ofcourse it doesn't take melds into account, since it's i180 unmeldable gear
And needing 3-star HQ food to get to the minimum requirements is kinda silly (since the NQ version leaves the crafter at 819 control)

See, I didn't even know they were adding 180 accessories to the game. But as I said earlier, you'd have to be /really/ stupid to buy those. So I feel it's not that big of a deal, just get the 170s made. If you're aspiring to be a 3 star crafter, a simple 2 star carpenter craft shouldn't be out of your reach...

(Also people have been using food to cheese requirements since 2.0 so I don't see that as a big deal either.)