Novice Network Feedback for SE

[Arrius]

You're right having everything leveled means nothing as well. I went through Saint Mocianne's and the healer had everything to 60 and sported "The Fortunate" title but couldn't heal at all, so she/he most likely auto leveled everything. Regardless the mentor system is a nice idea in theory and I'm sure it has helped some but implementing a voice chat in game would have been better as some people can't type fast or have dyslexia and don't want type. Having every class leveled however should still be required. Just because I don't play a class as main doesn't mean I don't know that monks are positional or that tanks should have oaths up etc.

I can turn that argument around and say that quite a few people don't enjoy voice chat, either because they are a not very social person, display anxiety when they have to talk to strangers, or just don't have the hardware that comes with a decent microphone.

Aside that, there's already Discord/TS/Skype available for the willing that give their trust into the hands of a mentor, so developing inGame voice chat seems to be wasted resources.

[Maero]

Requirement should still have been having a dps, healer and a tank class above 50 for this mentor system just in my opinion. Players are using to benefit themselves and not that of others from what i have been reading

[Dumbledoremd]

If you cant do your job at 60 you have 0 right to mentor anyone on anything

[CelestePinke]

Well not every console player has a laptop or iPad or phone easily accessible for those chats. PS3 players can't use voice chat with PS4, so whether the new person is having anxiety talking to players doesn't mean they have to talk they can still listen and type responses.

[FinolaWren]

The most common questions I've seen in NN, many times a day- what level do I get chocobo. I'm on story mission X and can't find the next one, what do I do. Should I level crafts now or wait to 50. Things like that. I have the time in the game, I have the patience to answer over and over. I run low level dungeons in any role to help, I can tell you where the Hall of Novices is, where the weaver guild is. This is what the novices want to know. If there is end-game discussion I just don't join in, as I can't offer advice, in the same way someone with every fight class to 60 but no gathers won't reply to a question asking what a gather rotation is. We all have our strengths and weaknesses.

Of two level 60 Bards, one may have leveled using basic dungeons and fate grinding, hit 60 and never touched the class again. The other may have leveled and use the job consistently in the highest level of endgame activities, know every aspect of the job and gear inside and out. Yet both are 60- who is the best to advise on being a bard if a novice asks? The basic requirements ensure time in game, not quality of mentor. I could put more time in and get every class in the game to 60 but I'd still now my WHM better as that's my main. And still it means bugger all- cos 99% of the time they want to know what a guildhest is, how to unlock a retainer, can someone join party to heal through a difficult sidequest.

I'm mentor not because I want to go into long discussion of endgame, but to aid those who are new with the basics and a good overview. Pretty sure any mentor in the game can give details on what a raid is, not every one of them can go in depth into every single stage of it but that's not what is needed. It's for novices.

[MihaelB]

Some idiot on my server keeps adding bots to our novice network and they keep getting re-invited despite us kicking them.

Think you need a log of (Mentor name) invited (Novice name) into the Novice Network.

[Teykos]

Some idiot on my server keeps adding bots to our novice network and they keep getting re-invited despite us kicking them.

Think you need a log of (Mentor name) invited (Novice name) into the Novice Network.

This, so much. It's a lot easier to keep the roster cleaned up if the people inviting bots can get kicked for being either sloppy or collaborators.

[Piamette_Buttlass]

Sorry for the necro, but I did a google search and this came up first. I have been a mentor for over a week on Behemoth, and have not once gotten into the NN. I don't even get error messages. And yes, those chat features are enabled. I wonder if it's because I can't do mentor roulette yet? (I haven't finished most of the hildebrand questline - which I honestly don't think should be required but oh well).

Did they change it so there isn't a notification when you change zones? Or is there a new way to opt in already that I'm uinaware of? I'm really confused about this.

Also I do think the number of dungeons/commendations required to be a mentor should be increased.

[zeopower6]

It was changed so that when you become a mentor, you have to switch on the channel to join (and autojoin from then on until you type it again) the channel.

You type /nnetwork or /nnetwork on and you will enter the network. To toggle off, type it again or /nnetwork off.

[LineageRazor]

It was changed so that when you become a mentor, you have to switch on the channel to join (and autojoin from then on until you type it again) the channel.

You type /nnetwork or /nnetwork on and you will enter the network. To toggle off, type it again or /nnetwork off.

This struck me as a bit odd... If you go through the trouble of becoming a mentor, that implies that you want to... well... mentor people. I'd think that the default would be for novice network to be on, rather than off.

I hope that when you become a mentor now, it at least instructs you how to turn the network on and off. I became a mentor before /nnetwork was added, and it took me a while to figure out why I wasn't receiving "cannot join the channel" messages anymore...

Better to start with it on, and if a mentor doesn't know how to leave - well, they're in the perfect channel to ask how! If they're not in, it's a lot more difficult to find someone to ask how to join.