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[Kotemon]

I haven't used the other two yet until I get a couple more 210 or higher weapons for them. On Dark with Deathbringer Awoken, (~206 average) Dragoon is still pushing enmity as Ive been getting them with the current max Anima stage lately. Anti-tower was my first new dungeon and I found my self using Enmity combos more and barely keeping up with agro before I got my gear above 200. I upgraded to Deathbringer i210 (avg~208) and that made Amdapor easier but I'm noticing that I'm cycling enmity combos more than I did before. I also seem to be loosing mp a bit faster because of it so I cant DA+ Abyssal drain, as much as before. until gear gets better.

Otherwise (for me) its back to weapon grinding to keep up with DPS. Because I still hate holding off Dragoons with better weapons and Blm who spam on a different target.. I did however manage to claim and hold Enmity on Cuchulainn when it turned off the tank and began going after the rest of the raid (his Healer or a DPS). The fact I was able to keep it after going all Vit was impressive enough.

[Riki_Namu]

I've had zero aggro issues. Then again im not trying to tank in dps stances. In-fact its easier to stay ahead, and when in tank stance I don't even use a enmity combo at the start now. Unless someone really got alot of burst off before I could get a hit in but other than that 0 issues.

Might be your problem.

[Fernosaur]

I've had zero aggro issues. Then again im not trying to tank in dps stances. In-fact its easier to stay ahead, and when in tank stance I don't even use a enmity combo at the start now. Unless someone really got alot of burst off before I could get a hit in but other than that 0 issues.

Might be your problem.

I've noticed that it's super easy to tank in tank stance now even without the enmity combo, yeah. I guess the adjustments to enmity and some potency buffs on PLD make it possible to never do a RoH combo and still hold hate just fine. The problem is when you try to switch to DPS stance. I was able to stay in Sword Oath through like 80% of boss fights today in Amdapor, but the DPS might have not been super great. I'd have to try with DPS whom I know are competent.

[KorenA]

I've noticed that it's super easy to tank in tank stance now even without the enmity combo, yeah. I guess the adjustments to enmity and some potency buffs on PLD make it possible to never do a RoH combo and still hold hate just fine. The problem is when you try to switch to DPS stance. I was able to stay in Sword Oath through like 80% of boss fights today in Amdapor, but the DPS might have not been super great. I'd have to try with DPS whom I know are competent.

Without a nin, a good full goes blm is gonna rip you one open. My buddy taught me this well in lost city

[Fernosaur]

Without a nin, a good full goes blm is gonna rip you one open. My buddy taught me this well in lost city

Blm does have Quelling Strikes, though. I'd be slightly more worried about good Dragoons, who can spike similarly to BLM but don't have any enmity reduction tools.

My bottomline was that I don't find holding hate in tank stance difficult in the slightest. It is holding it in DPS stance that is a real, ridic challenge.

[koroko220]

Blm does have Quelling Strikes, though. I'd be slightly more worried about good Dragoons, who can spike similarly to BLM but don't have any enmity reduction tools.

My bottomline was that I don't find holding hate in tank stance difficult in the slightest. It is holding it in DPS stance that is a real, ridic challenge.

Quelling is on a ridiculously long cd. And dragoon has the backflip that halves their current enmity like shroud for whm.

[Fernosaur]

Quelling is on a ridiculously long cd. And dragoon has the backflip that halves their current enmity like shroud for whm.

I always forget about that shizz! I stand corrected.

True about QS, though, I wasn't really thinking about pulls more than I was thinking about bosses.

[repoe]

I will add with pug groups dps or drks using gap closers immediately after i pull with a tomahawk can cause me to make on the fly audible with my opener and going straight into BB instead storm. This varies on how good the player is I'll usually determine what to do based off the enmity bar

[Heli_02]

Personally, I haven't had any aggro issues. In fact, I'm finding it easier to generate snap aggro by stance-dancing between combos, mainly while PLDing. But again, that may only be my perception.

[Ciri_Wolf]

Kinda sounds like Grit can never be turned off anymore. Making a stance useless. Making blood weapon useless too. Only thing I don't like about tank change.