Aggro

[repoe]

I will add with pug groups dps or drks using gap closers immediately after i pull with a tomahawk can cause me to make on the fly audible with my opener and going straight into BB instead storm. This varies on how good the player is I'll usually determine what to do based off the enmity bar

[Heli_02]

Personally, I haven't had any aggro issues. In fact, I'm finding it easier to generate snap aggro by stance-dancing between combos, mainly while PLDing. But again, that may only be my perception.

[Ciri_Wolf]

Kinda sounds like Grit can never be turned off anymore. Making a stance useless. Making blood weapon useless too. Only thing I don't like about tank change.

[MrsFluffyButt]

Lol, if that makes blood weapon useless, then I'm the Pope. BW can and should still be used for any OT situations, skill speed increase and mana regen per every attack for more Dark Arts.

[Fernosaur]

Lol, if that makes blood weapon useless, then I'm the Pope.

BLESS MY CHILDREN

[Sarcatica]

You can actually still maintain aggro lead without tank stance. It's just harder to do for now. However, if you pull it off, you can still do way better dps. For every combo, you get 50x3 potency from Sword Oath, even if you spam Halone ((150+200+260pot) x 100% mod + 150pot from Sword Oath = 760) combo way more often, it's still better than be in Shield Oath and spam Royal Authority ((150+200+350pot) x 85% mod = 595). And those numbers aren't including autos yet + multipliers from FoF and other buffs/debuffs.

Note: excluding Goring Blade combo because it's still a priority to put it up no matter what.

[Ciri_Wolf]

Actually that's true. Not sure why I was only thinking about MT.

[Blitzace]

Would say i still struggle as a PLD in SwO with very good DPS. as in i can't try to pump out constant DPS rotations.
With Shield Oath however its still easy peasy as it always was:P

[Reynhart]

With Shield Oath however its still easy peasy as it always was:P

I'd even say easier than before.
I've just done the Antitower for MSQ, and I manage to keep aggro on a BLM and a DRG (Better geared than me) with almost no RoH.

I felt like a DRK, avoiding the enmity combo as much as I could

[Ultimatecalibur]

So haven't played new patch yet. I never really cared about damage as much, but was wondering what the differences are in holding hate now. Are they the same or harder? Also, is the content adjusted for the lower DPS?

The gap between tank stance/dps stance enmity generation is greater. While the current potency changes to the Paladin are known, the changes to Savage Blade's and the Tank stances' enmity multipliers are currently unknown (speculation puts the tank stance multipliers at x3).

From what I can tell, it is easier to hold enmity in tank stance (as a 3.2 Vit Paladin would be generating ~140% the enmity a 3.1 Str Paladin was if the new stance multiplier is x3), but harder to hold enmity in dps stance (90% the damage dealt from the damage calc changes).