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  1. #21
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    KfLeX's Avatar
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    Lola Milila
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    Midgardsormr
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    I just get ganged up more as my smn.
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  2. #22
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    Mutemutt's Avatar
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    Mumuki Muki
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    Leviathan
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    Goldsmith Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post
    It did, for one; a 4.6k fell cleave was, again, a crit chance so rngesus had to be on your side. Again the burst took at least 15 seconds of non-interrupted hits and required melee range, so you are being hyperbolic by stating it was easy for a Warrior to effectively down someone from 100-0% when it wasn't, and now it's even harder with our AP nerfed down by roughly 30%; a well placed Regen with two timed ticks between our CD pops could effectively negate our burst, or even an opposite team's Warrior pop Thrill of War effs us completely.
    Whoa there buddy, I didn't even really mention anything about how difficult it was to do. I only said that 4.6k is a big amount of damage when it amounts to half someone's hp and that you could possibly do it twice in a row. And I only used that number because that's what the person I quoted mentioned and seemed to write off as being tiny.

    I mean really, fire IV can hit for 4k+ and is really troublesome to actually use in frontline (and will be effectively impossible in feast, I'm sure), but I'm not going "yeah, fire IV nukes people for over half their health on the regular bases. No big deal; they can just walk it off". That's a lot of damage.
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  3. #23
    Player Iagainsti's Avatar
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutemutt View Post
    Whoa there buddy,I didn't even really mention anything about how difficult it was to do. I only said that 4.6k is a big amount of damage when it amounts to half someone's hp and that you could possibly do it twice in a row.
    <.< 0.o smh

    Quote Originally Posted by Mutemutt View Post
    To be fair, 4.6k is more than half the average non-tank life bar. And wasn't it able to be done twice in a row pretty often too? You make it sound so small but that's a huge number.
    ok, "buddy", all I was doing was expanding on what you were stating, and no, 4k is not high when you account the setup to initiate 1-2 4k hits.
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    Last edited by Iagainsti; 02-26-2016 at 05:29 AM.

  4. #24
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    Reen Godly
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    Scholar Lv 60
    11k fell cleave on some flame smn with fever, prob had a shit ton of debuffs but its possible, also smns so overpowered and easy, 120k is max for majority of them lmao.
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  5. #25
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    Zar'tan Vosloo
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by P4X0R10N View Post
    That sucks big time. I don't like the dps nerf, but i can accept it if they give tanks more pvp utility-namely buff each tanks class specific tank skills so that it makes killing tanks as important as killing healers.

    It can be something as simple as reducing tank pvp skills cool downs like tempest or thrill of war by 30-40 percent.

    Or give tanks additional pvp skills to increase their mobility or self healing...

    ability bloat..... no thank you. increase are damage more to over come healer heals.
    also there shouldn't be any "Tank" in pvp, cuz none of my aggro skills will make players target me. "Tanks" in pvp should play as dps.
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    Last edited by azlewood; 02-26-2016 at 05:45 AM.
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    I'll just leave this here:

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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post
    <.< 0.o smh

    ok, "buddy", all I was doing was expanding on what you were stating, and no, 4k is not high when you account the setup to initiate 1-2 4k hits.
    Sorry but when you start your reply off with "lmao, no", you're not really setting the best tone yourself.

    I don't agree with the other bit you say about the damage, but I don't really feel like talking about it anymore.
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  7. #27
    Player Iagainsti's Avatar
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutemutt View Post
    Sorry but when you start your reply off with "lmao, no", you're not really setting the best tone yourself.

    I don't agree with the other bit you say about the damage, but I don't really feel like talking about it anymore.
    Your compliance is subjective at best, but objectively what I stated about damage is true.

    and the Lmao was because I actually found what you said funny ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
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  8. #28
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    Straigus Rheyist
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post
    ok, "buddy", all I was doing was expanding on what you were stating, and no, 4k is not high when you account the setup to initiate 1-2 4k hits.
    SE combo(brutal Swing after Maim)>Fracture>Full Swing>HolmGang>Pop Veng, IR, RI, Berserk > FellCleave>Infuriate>Fell Cleave>Pray to Twleve you can Mercy stroke and Heavy Swing to finish off
    SE Combo(Brutal Swing)>Berserk>Infuriate>IR>FullSwing>Holmgang>Fell Cleave and pray to the twelve you had some support to cover the extra numbers missed and that 5k Fell Cleave brought your target into range to Mercy Stroke>Tomahawk them down.
    What? You're giving your target way too much notice that you are trying to burst, especially with the holmgang'ing and early full swing, everyone purifies that if its up.

    It's really not that big of a setup, unless you're accounting all the GCDs it takes to build Wrath stacks? Something that can be accomplished in one combo. The actual Warrior burst starts either on the Storm's Eye or the first Fell Cleave, depending on what you are trying to do. Just build combo on the way to target or on target(Seal Rock assumption) SE -> FS -> FC -> BS -> FC [-> MS -> MT for extra credit] (BS before FC sometimes) Done. Burst accomplishedl. Don't need to waste Holmgang. Buffs should be before burst, if being sneaky, just before Fell Cleave.

    This back before 3.2, would outright kill someone, now you have to bank of crits, which is better imo.

    Let's not act like Warrior ever had some type of complexity. Reminding me of the Dragoon 50 button rotation that never existed.
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    Last edited by Houston009; 02-29-2016 at 04:01 AM.

  9. #29
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    Dark Falz
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    Omega
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    Marauder Lv 80
    why are you using fracture in pvp

    why are you wasting your stun and not stunning inbetween double fell cleave
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  10. #30
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    Nessa Goddessly
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    Ravana
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zalestra View Post
    If you're going to exaggerate you might as well go farther than that. "I'm so glad I wont get 20k fell cleaves to the face anymore!!" Seriously, I wasn't even doing 9k cleaves in PvE with my i208 WAR
    I really have had 9k Fell cleave crits hit me in the face in Pvp, there's those debuffs you know? :< I hate it when my purify is on CD and I get the physical vul. debuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by P4X0R10N View Post
    Stop making shit up.

    Screenshot or it didn't happen. I'd be surprised if you get fell cleaved for over 7k once every third or fourth seal rock. Please. .
    Well, I can't screen shot it now, because wars have been nerfed since then. Also, don't get mad coz you bad and couldn't do 9k fell cleaves back then

    Quote Originally Posted by Reen24 View Post
    11k fell cleave on some flame smn with fever, prob had a shit ton of debuffs but its possible, also smns so overpowered and easy, 120k is max for majority of them lmao.
    ^ Guess I was lucky not to get a fell cleave from Reen xD
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    Last edited by NessaWyvern; 02-28-2016 at 10:59 AM.

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