Why so salty?

[Reila_Circus]

I think the frustrations came from having a choice removed. A lot of people including myself really like unique ways to complete content and STR tanking was probably one of the more useful.
I remember being bummed out a year ago when they patched out Titan-Egi being able to Tank Ramuh EX, just because I thought it was an interesting an unique thing to do. Don't get wrong though, that was a really necessary thing to do.

I was a strength tank.
I'm very indifferent about the situation. Tanking is what I enjoy, not big numbers. If anything, my HP bar is now bigger and it makes me pleased.

Pretty much this. I enjoyed strength tanking myself, but I just have fun Tanking in general.

[birdy_reene]

"snipe".

True, but the problem is so many tanks have forgotten Tank first, dps concern as tank is secondary. and it lead to plenty of really bad situations. Tho the new patch poops on the few good DPS Tank hybrids, its forcing the subpar tanks to go back to the basics they neglected in their quest to do dmg. I wont lie, ive seen amazing dps hybrid tanks who do absurdly well and I got no beef with that. But the wannabe's brought down the game play. DPS that slack are guilty of this as well. Ultimately I like this patch, I don't mind taking a hit to my dps as my pld, it makes the bad party members stand out like sore thumbs now. And those bad players will learn to step up their game, or live in a toxic wasteland of hate and beguile. Ultimately I like it even more so cause it in a round about way forces teamwork.

[JediFirefly]

I've played a VIT PLD since launch, I don't see any nerf, I felt like a God in every dungeon I ran today, compared to last week. I did more damage, and it was so much easier holding aggro against balls to the walls from the pull DPSers.

I had given up PLD and went to WHM main since HW came out. This "nerf" has made me want to be a PLD again.

[birdy_reene]

-snip-.

Same, I went full Vit PLD when I got the game, then went to WHM, then picked up dragoon. And learned a lot about all 3 rolls and how to work off one another. One thing this playerbase ive noticed has forgotten big time is, this game is full of ALOT of casuals. And sometimes those casuals decide they want to learn how to play with the big dogs. And when your a casual. you don't usually have the luxury of playing with big dogs, so you join a que and hope to Odin that someone will take notice and give you the advice and patience needed to learn to do what they do. Youtube guides only get you so far. and I love this patch cause it enforces know your rolls, help each other out, or suffer for it.

[AsteriaStarfall]

The problem is that players may like to actually play their tank class as their main class when solo as well. It was nice to kill things maybe not as quickly as a dps but not taking 5 minutes to kill 1 enemy because of low dps. The argument everyone makes is in regards to dungeon/raids but never considers the fact that some players may just like their "tank" class as their dps for solo content

[Welsper59]

The problem is that players may like to actually play their tank class as their main class when solo as well. It was nice to kill things maybe not as quickly as a dps but not taking 5 minutes to kill 1 enemy because of low dps. The argument everyone makes is in regards to dungeon/raids but never considers the fact that some players may just like their "tank" class as their dps for solo content

That's the beauty of the job system in FF games. You're not bound to one role or class/job. If you're in solo content, you generally don't have to limit yourself. Don't want to level another job? Well that's a personal problem then. If ANYONE took up the tank job and took more than 30sec longer than a DPS to kill a regular mob, you're doing it wrong. Likewise, if you took up a tank and expected competitive output, you're doing it wrong. Think about it from the DPS perspective as well. The risk of death by taking on harder things is quite a lot higher as DPS, compared to a tank. Every role has its pros and cons. Nothing unusual there.

[Einheri]

Why so salty?
1. Its the internet
2. Its a video game
3. Its a mmo

On the general saltyness level forums for mmos are only beaten by political news comment sections.

[Awful]

Heavy rain of salt of rain from OP everyone from 3.1 all knew this was coming those that did saved their 210 fending gear and now the str tanks are sad when we're tanks not dps. This means bad dps will stand out more and I say that's good why? Maybe people will get off their entitled asses and realize that their dps rotation, how they position, and use CDs can make them a better player. I honestly hated dpsing as a tank in dungeons/raids if I did more than say a drg, a blm, even a MONK it made me sad inside knowing that they have no idea what's going on and it's "how they want to play". Please.

[raymon]

its a endless cycle anybody else remember those bard threads? and people then told them to suck it up? that was a even bigger change then how a job gets its damage. it was a change it how the job played. the difference maybe that the bard one was more positive and the tank was (debatable) a Nerf. i don't post on the forums for this very reason. i will say this once. no matter what happens from here on out, people won't be happy. i main WHM would i be salty if the heals were nerfed? a little yes. but i would be understanding if it was for balancing. this was more of a balance issue then a "lets screw with the tanks for the lols" as a example lets assume that monk do a ton more dmage then the other jobs. there DPS is at least 1.5x higher then the next closest job. in that event it would make perfect sense to nerf monks because they would become a mandatory job in raids due ti there high DPS output. but they don't. because what matters more is if the job(s) are balanced enough where one is not extremely overpowered.

[papichulo123]

how dare you i have nothing nice to say to you so good day