Accuracy thread again!

[Sidra]

I guess it depends on perspective. The way I look at it, healers have the ability to improve their in-game performance via melding more than any other job. I guess that's good post-melding and bad pre-melding. It was gonna be true for raiding anyway, but now it's dungeons too...so be it. But given the abundance of crafted gear, materia and the fact that it's not only Midas Savage gear with a few slots, but also tome and Midas normal gear - I prefer to look at it from the post melded lense, as that's where any player who cares is going to be in pretty short order. 2-4 weeks for most players, in a tier that lasts 6-7 months.

[Jerichai]

The way I look at it, healers have the ability to improve their in-game performance via melding more than any other job. I guess that's good post-melding and bad pre-melding. It was gonna be true for raiding anyway, but now it's dungeons too...so be it. But given the abundance of crafted gear, materia and the fact that it's not only Midas Savage gear with a few slots, but also tome and Midas normal gear - I prefer to look at it from the post melded lense, as that's where any player who cares is going to be in pretty short order.

Yes, all the crafted gear that costs twice the price of a small house or more. That's such a reasonable option for most people...

And you can tell me how easy gil is to get until you're blue in the face...doesn't mean I will think it's a good idea to make players feel like they have to dump millions into items they wouldn't have otherwise just to accommodate a terrible stat.

[FoxyAreku]

Yes, all the crafted gear that costs twice the price of a small house or more. That's such a reasonable option for most people...

And you can tell me how easy gil is to get until you're blue in the face...doesn't mean I will think it's a good idea to make players feel like they have to dump millions into items they wouldn't have otherwise just to accommodate a terrible stat.

Hey you're on my server, if you want crafted healer gear hit me up. I'll do it for free if you get the materials together just to prove to you that it doesn't cost even one million. Just buy the ESO mats and the rest are easy, most expensive is frost cotton bolls that cost about 15k each.

[Jerichai]

Hey you're on my server, if you want crafted healer gear hit me up. I'll do it for free if you get the materials together just to prove to you that it doesn't cost even one million. Just buy the ESO mats and the rest are easy, most expensive is frost cotton bolls that cost about 15k each.

While I appreciate the offer, I am going to have to respectfully decline. Not everyone is going to have that kind of opportunity, and I don't want to encourage the developers to have achieving boring stat requirements tied to purchased gear. I have nothing wrong with the crafters or what they're selling, but that kind of gear should be saved for min/maxing, glamour, or catch up/role changing for people in a hurry. No being able to hit things in 4 man content.

[FoxyAreku]

While I appreciate the offer, I am going to have to respectfully decline. Not everyone is going to have that kind of opportunity, and I don't want to encourage the developers to have achieving boring stat requirements tied to purchased gear. I have nothing wrong with the crafters or what they're selling, but that kind of gear should be saved for min/maxing, glamour, or catch up/role changing for people in a hurry. No being able to hit things in 4 man content.

It's not a rare opportunity though. I've never met a crafter who wouldn't do something for relatively cheap if you provided all the materials.

Most I've ever seen is a 500k crafting charge at most, but there's plenty of people who will do it for 200k or even 100k. It's really not much...

Though I do agree that dungeons shouldn't be a place where you have to consider accuracy. .-. They should at least make cleric stance give an acc bonus.

[Sidra]

Yes, all the crafted gear that costs twice the price of a small house or more. That's such a reasonable option for most people...

And you can tell me how easy gil is to get until you're blue in the face...doesn't mean I will think it's a good idea to make players feel like they have to dump millions into items they wouldn't have otherwise just to accommodate a terrible stat.

The current crafted gear is only expensive because it's brand new. In terms of effort to craft and acquire - it's very minimal. Right now, if you are buying off the MB you're kinda screwed. But because of the lack of effort needed to make the items, the prices are going to come down in very short order. And even if they don't, spend 5 minutes to hit a node, spend 160 esoterics, and send a crafted an HQ seafood stew and 250k to a crafter friend. Item acquired. Honestly, for how good the gear is, it's crazy how easy the items are to make. Not a single ingredient takes any time investment.

Now, I am not gonna disagree Accuracy is kind of a dumb stat. If they removed it from the game, I wouldn’t complain. But it doesn't matter, I don't make the game – I play it…and this game has accuracy. The point is, in this game, as it currently exists - it's stupid for healers to complain about accuracy, since that's a problem they themselves have the ability to easily alleviate.

[Jerichai]

spend 5 minutes to hit a node*

*Once you've fully leveled mining and botany, unlocked the necessary folklore books, and achieved at least 720 gathering and 740 perception for HQ. Seems like a lot of needless effort just to regain the ability to hit things competently in 4 man content.

Now, I am not gonna disagree Accuracy is kind of a dumb stat.

Please do explain how accuracy as a stat enhances the experience of this game. Or any MMO for that matter.

[Sidra]

*Once you've fully leveled mining and botany, unlocked the necessary folklore books, and achieved at least 720 gathering and 740 perception for HQ. Seems like a lot of needless effort just to regain the ability to hit things competently in 4 man content.

Please do explain how accuracy as a stat enhances the experience of this game. Or any MMO for that matter.

Look man - I don't remember the last time I upgraded gear or spent put in any effort on my botanist, and all I need is some NQ Dhalmel food and I can do it. 3.0 released like 8 months ago, I have some of the 150 gear melded gear, a red scrip main hand, and bought the offhand...although they now just released a scrip equivalent. My miner is close enough that if I wanted something with it, its just an upgrade or two away. Regardless, it's been 7 months where you could have casually got your gatherer up to speed to be ready for whats next. You didn't? Ok. But where is personal accountability in all of this? Instead of complaining why not thing "Oh man, maybe I should have, at somepoint over the last 7 months gotten my gatherers up. well I didn't so now I should so that I can more easily cap my healer acc for the new content." Done. Why is the reaction to come and complain on a forum about 3.2 healer accuracy instead of fixing your gatherer up, waiting a week and spending some gil...whatever the myriad of options you have available to you - and getting the ACC you need. You could have had gatherer reqs for 6-7 months. If you don't - that's YOUR fault. So be it, no big deal. But don't...complain...fix it. This is an MMO, time investment in your character leads to better charter performance...as it should. If you ever get to a point where you feel like your character progress is slowed or hindered, you always should look at what you can do first. If the game has given you the tools the developer has done their part. And when there isn't a solution (like AST at 3.0 release) make a case.

In general, I don't like the accuracy stat. Sadly, I am not a paid developer of this game. I play it, I don't make it. And since there is accuracy...and now you can meld it onto gear with ease, I don't see the point in complaining about it. The game has enough problems that you literally can't alleviate in game that this just seems like an bad poor use of complaining time.

[FoxyAreku]

Just wanna say I've crafted some 220 gear and melded with accuracy and crit and wow, scholars are even more broken than usual this patch. I never miss anymore and I'm critting every other adlo nearly, it's insane.

This is what I've always wanted. ;; Thank you SE. Now just please don't nerf me kthx.

[Sidra]

People complained about story being locked behind Coil because they didn't want to raid. But if you make the decision not to raid, isn't it logical to assume you may miss out on something like story (now we have this normal mode crap which is a total waste of design space - we already have dungeons and 24 mans for faceroll content)? When the new relic were released, they items cost about 4m to complete and people were complaining that you needed gil for stuff. But gil exists in this game, shouldn't there be stuff you can buy with it? And if you don't make gil because you don't enjoy and gil making activities - isn't it logical to assume at some point you are going to miss out on something, or something will be more difficult for you to obtain because you've elected not to make money? Same thing with botany/mining - items for this new equipment is makeable with it...if you don't enjoy it fine - but do so with the understanding that at some point its going to be harder for you to acquire things which would be the fruits of that labor. We can't predict the future - skipping any sort of character development or content may cause issues for you in the future. That's not a bad thing.

There are things in this game I don't enjoy doing. I simply won't do them - and I don't do them knowing there are things I will never have as a result - I live with it because it's my choice. You will never hear me complaining about not having those rewards from those things, ever - because it's a choice I've made. It just annoys me to no end people intentionally forgoing content for whatever reason - but then complaining about not having whatever is locked behind the stuff they choose not to do.

And to me, if accuracy should or shouldn't be in the game and it's validity as a stat is a totally different discussion than boo-hoo I'm missing even though I could go make myself not miss. I'd support the first if SE decided to change it - and the second is just whining when you have the power to fix the situation on your own.