Specialist again? Really?

[Divine_Intervention]

and guessed that you had enough negative feed back to stop with the specialist system.

They arent gonna just stop using something they put a lot of work into . It was a pretty safe bet they were just making room for more specialist stuff.

lock players into specialist as a tank, healer or dps only?

Hell no. I enjoy playing many classes thanks.

here since beta, I don't plan on staying if you keep up with specialist. You have lost a loyal customer.

And i'm pretty sure you haven't stayed and payed £9 a month since beta purely for crafting. Suck it up, find what you enjoy, ignore what you want.

[Katlyna]

Actually I played all the way up to 2.4 without getting my 2.0 mainquest finished. On the other hand I had all 8 crafters complete, and 4 star worthy. Honestly this whole specialist mess is just a failed experiment some dip at SE isn't willing to let go of. Its NOT doing anything healthy for the game except forcing some cross interaction between FC crafters (or one crafter and another in the economy). And our FC was doing MORE of that in 2.x before this specialist mess.

In our FC crafting in 3.x is a PALE piece of garbage in comparison to the crafting activity, fun and excitement we had in 2.4. Likewise when something you pay for changes like this. You have every right to complain. I'll keep griping and throwing complaints their direction until they either fix this crap, I give up on crafting, or quit the game because the company doesn't deserve my money if they're going to continue to make stupid choices.

[MomomiMomi]

or lock players into specialist as a tank, healer or dps only?

They kind of already have since the beginning with weekly lockouts.

[Alistaire]

They kind of already have since the beginning with weekly lockouts.

Also nobody undercuts your job in battle classes. Terrible comparison.

[Katlyna]

Yeah but if you look at the time it takes to gear a character for effective raiding... you can easily gear multiple characters up to do so. It doesn't take a perfect set of weeks worth of gear to do 99% of the content. All of our hardcore raiders can play multiple classes for raiding content Thor Ex etc. Time tapers it some yes. But its not a permanent locked out state.

I "think" have been ok if they had gone with a tapered design like that for crafting, where you could only viably gear up one character fully and the others less so, and then start working on the next and so forth. I THOUGHT red scripting was going to be like that. But they completely fubared that up, turning it into not just a time investment but an absolutely insane material investment. Then after that failure they jumped to locking recipes out.

It all just shows me how uncreative and hopeless they are at this point with their crafting system. Suffice to say they are doing a great job at sucking the fun out of it.

[FoxyAreku]

or lock players into specialist as a tank, healer or dps only?

They basically have done this every single patch with weekly caps on the best gear, though?

Also specialist is great and I don't think I'll ever understand the complaints. Especially now since you need a full crafter-specific set+specialist bonus+nearly full melds (or grade V materia) to even get to 3 star

All the complaints can be solved easily by selling your specialist recipes to buy other people's or by being social and getting people to help you.

[Dahlinea]

All the complaints can be solved easily by selling your specialist recipes to buy other people's or by being social and getting people to help you.

It's not so simple and people are making their point here. We CAN make our specialist-only crafts and sell them to buy the others. The thing is, we leveled ALL 8 crafting classes so we could be able to make our own things without rely on other people. We got used to this and we like it. I have so much fun wearing the latest set of gear that I made myself or seeing other people wearing it. Now I can't see it anymore or worse... I can make them or see other people using these crafts I made, when the set is not the latest anymore and there's a whole new set out there, that I can't make it either... Great.

[Kingsnake661]

The thing is, we leveled ALL 8 crafting classes so we could be able to make our own things without rely on other people. We got used to this and we like it...

I actually understand this more then most. I've played mmo for, god, 15, 17 years now... started in... 1999 I think. As such, I have endured many, many game "adjustments" aimed at fixing a broken system that I enjoyed. Slide casting in Asherons call... Beastmaster In SWG, supertanking in COH... Them are a few of many that jump to mind, and god I was mad when they where fixed, but it resulted in a better game 9 times out of 10. The developers should have never let you get self sufficient in the first place, they made a mistake in doing so. They are trying to fix it, and I think personally it's for the best. Time will tell.

[Niroken]

The developers should have never let you get self sufficient in the first place, they made a mistake in doing so. They are trying to fix it, and I think personally it's for the best. Time will tell.

Giving less options is not the best solution. I entirely agree that people who specialize should be able to craft without having to level up every class and potentially have several recipes to themselves when the items are relevent however I disagree with heavily punishing players who want to omnicraft should they choose to. It lowers competition which drives prices up, even for people who don't craft at all.

[Kingsnake661]

Giving less options is not the best solution.

I see people say this a lot, but it's just not always true. Especially not in mmo style games were the developers must strive to balance there game so that everyone has a fun and fair experience. Sometimes they have to limit what some players can do, or can achieve, to keep the game competitive. Sometimes, like in combat, you can still allow your player base to learn all the skills, but not use them all at the same time. So yeah, you know everything, but you can't tank/dps/heal all at the same time, you pick a role.