Gods and Jobs

[Answa]

Well, enough tangents, haha. Let's just agree that all we've said is speculation. Whatever logic we both see in our arguments, one side will be wrong. And that's fine.

[DantesAmore]

in the lore THM deals more with death then con does. and THM currently is closer to blm them cnj. CNJ has all the WHM style abilities atm

[Firon]

I've said it before, I'll say it again - I cannot see White Mage evolving from a guild that worships sin, considers death profit, and runs a mausoleum. It just... I can't.

Also, they've known about the job system for a long time, they wouldn't have given CON three raises and two AoE cures if they weren't trying to single it out as the WHM ahead of time.

And THM very much deals in the elements.

Banish and Scourge each contain 33.3% of three elements. It's called polarity.

This^ Worshipers of death are Holy healers!!!!!! LOL

Also look @ THM's spells some of them give your life to heal others or hurt others its all about death there.

Edit: Also If you look @ CON and THM Raw stats that will also be your answer to which job they are gonna lean towards.

[PrettyPrincess]

NO WILL BE RIGHT I AM ALWAYS RIGHT

I'm j/k :P

[Wynn]

This^ Worshipers of death are Holy healers!!!!!! LOL

Also look @ THM's spells some of them give your life to heal others or hurt others its all about death there.

All priests are concerned with the afterlife. Also, all religious organizations are concerned with money. Seems to me that SE was making a social commentary when adding THM to the game.

[grandm]

Well, enough tangents, haha. Let's just agree that all we've said is speculation. Whatever logic we both see in our arguments, one side will be wrong. And that's fine.

this is true. but it don't help me figure out which to lv up. i want to be black mage and blow the crap out of everything. i would hate to be a healer :P. i think after 1.20. if some1 gets holy and the other gets ultima, this will be concrete proof

[Wynn]

this is true. but it don't help me figure out which to lv up. i want to be black mage and blow the crap out of everything. i would hate to be a healer :P. i think after 1.20. if some1 gets holy and the other gets ultima, this will be concrete proof

Level both. The abilities are handy.

[Nakiamiie]

The Twelve have names, and we know them.

Speaking of the Twelves, can we see something related to the religion of the Twelves in 2.0?
I remember Tanaka once said the guardian you choose would have an impact on your character. I was excited about this, but obviously with the present situation, it has fallen into oblivion. Can we have more about the guardians (Twelves) in 2.0? Like leves related to them and quest to earn their favours which in turn would give us special privileges or bonuses? For example, having XXXXX as your guardian would grant you a bonus of +10 elemental resistance for your guardian's elemental alignment. Or something else. While not game breaking or forcing people to favour one rather than another, it would add to uniqueness of each character when they pick their guardian. (of course, changing guardian through missions or quest in-game could be possible also if you get fed up of your guardian -- but with a penalty if you ever want to switch back to your original guardian).

Sorry for being off-topic.

The lore is amazing in FFXIV and there is so much the devs can do to bring it into influencing the characters' live. Making it more than just background lore.

[Anonymoose]

You're thinking way too hard and trying to make the facts fit your theories instead of your theories to fit the facts. I'm just gonna go in for a jugular shot against this whole CON = BLM because it has elements thing right here and now.

You're saying White Mage will evolve from the class that uses vampyric drains while Black Mage will evolve from the class that bestows beneficial buffs. You're saying White Mage comes from Dark Seal and that Black Mage comes from Tranquility and Repose.

You're saying WHITE MAGE = DAMNATION and BLACK MAGE = RADIANCE.

Let the elements go. It's clear who's good and who's evil. It's been clear the entire time, and their choices of who gets what abilities and strengths ever since the direction changed and jobs were announced only reinforces those assumptions.

Could they come out of left field? Absolutely. But it would still be coming out of LEFT FIELD, the least likely direction. Until proven otherwise, it's occam's razor up in here.

[Wynn]

You're thinking way too hard and trying to make the facts fit your theories instead of your theories to fit the facts. I'm just gonna go in for a jugular shot against this whole CON = BLM because it has elements thing right here and now.

You're saying White Mage will evolve from the class that uses vampyric drains while Black Mage will evolve from the class that bestows beneficial buffs. You're saying White Mage comes from Dark Seal and that Black Mage comes from Tranquility and Repose.

You're saying WHITE MAGE = DAMNATION and BLACK MAGE = RADIANCE.

Let the elements go. It's clear who's good and who's evil, here.

Neither one of them are evil <.<