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    Quote Originally Posted by IAmPotent View Post
    you should probably think about controlling your ADD.
    Control that ADD! Heard him guys?! TAME THAT ADD! TIE IT DOWN! SHOW IT WHO'S BOSS!!....lolwat?

    Personally I really hate the change. I really don't think there would have been threads being made after the patch asking why a change like this wasn't implemented. It's pretty unneeded, but the fact that this change was made isn't really the problem. The problem is not being able to revert back to not having those circles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IAmPotent View Post
    "It makes it hard to see what skill it is" You put it on the hotbar in that spot, but you don't know what it is?!?!
    There are 12 battle classes, 8 crafting classes, and 3 gathering classes in this game. Do you have all their abilities committed to muscle memory?

    Anything that makes elements of the UI harder to see is not an improvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowyne View Post
    There are 12 battle classes, 8 crafting classes, and 3 gathering classes in this game. Do you have all their abilities committed to muscle memory?

    Anything that makes elements of the UI harder to see is not an improvement.
    And I don't see how having a big number above a grayed out icon make it easier to read either.

    I like it the way it is now, but if I would want a change, it would be to make the white circle a little less bright (as proposed by the dev) and bigger, so the circle is nearly tangent to the icon border.
    This way, we could have a better vision of the skill "behind" the circle.

    EDIT : missed the quote.
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    Last edited by Aura_Shurifon; 02-25-2016 at 11:05 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aura_Shurifon View Post
    And I don't see how having a big number above a grayed out icon make it easier to read either.


    analog. or digital is the thing

    when u are looking at TIMERS ,in FFXIV case u are dealing with lots of cooldowns, what u do prefer?

    is way faster and simple to use digital than a circle...im fairly sure that more than this "10%" would prefer watching digital numbers instead....

    example:






    in the game we have the CD timer small in a corner and a big white circle in mid , the same thing kida happened in swtor at release , the cds were distratcing , they even included the GCD on all the skills it was so annoying, that devs was forced to give options to players to remove the gcd animation, and for timers (dark background-light CD , light-dark , dark-dark , light light) , plus digital numbers on mid.
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    Last edited by Warlyx; 02-25-2016 at 10:03 PM.

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    It took me a while to get used to the new design with cooldowns, but i like it now and am fine with it.
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    Personally, I find the circles raaather obnoxious.

    I don't know about you guys, but my attention tends to be instinctively drawn towards things that move and things that are bright, something I'm probably not all alone with, considering modern age advertisements like to use bright flashing lights to draw attention and most games darken skills on cooldown.

    That said, I'm okay with circles on principle - but make them dark circles. As it is, skills on cooldown draw more innate attention than skills that aren't and that is, uh...a little bittle counterintuitive.
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    I don't find it annoying personally but I find it's not necessary. More than the circle countdown, the numeric timer on the skill icons themselves is a massive improvement. The skills already used to turn grey when on cooldown and the image would cycle back around until usable again. I don't know why they didn't just keep that and make the number for the timer bigger.

    I thought the issue in the first place was that anything apart from a numeric value was not accurate enough to be useful. Why did they make the number so small? That's the most odd thing to me.
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    I would like the option to change the color of the Circle. The new Recast Timers are awesome and makes it very easy to know when an ability is almost up. I would've been fine with 1.0's recast timers but this is good enough for me.
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    Last edited by FallenArisen0990; 02-25-2016 at 06:27 PM.

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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    The perfect solution has been suggested back in 2013. It boggles my mind that they still don't get the hint. Here is the opening post to a great thread. The third bar shown combines clockswipe motion and big numbers, making it look intuitive and accurate at the same time. They could even put a clockswipe behind the countdown. Please fix it SE. I'll give up idle camera, autoattack marker and group pose to free up memory for this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kikosho View Post
    I would like the option to have numbers displayed for all abilities on the hotbar to make it easier to know when the ability will actually become available. As it is right now, the clockswipe doesn't actually tell me when a skill will be ready, only that it isn't available and it'll eventually be ready.

    Another issue with the clockswipe is that on certain abilities, Raging Strikes being the prime suspect, whenever the ability is close to becoming available, the clockswipe becomes indistinguishable and the ability looks like it's actually ready when in fact it still has 10 secs or left to go. The numbers for cooldowns already exist ingame as we can see when we hover our mouse over the skill:



    I would like something similar to the below picture. Top hotbar is how it is currently, middle hotbar is the option I would like to see implemented. The third hotbar shows how GCD skills keep the clockswipe while long cooldown skills use numbers.



    FFXIV 1.0 had the numerical cooldowns along with clockswipe as well.


    Edit: Adjusted the image a bit.
    Edit2: Added 1.0 image
    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Personally, I find the circles raaather obnoxious.

    I don't know about you guys, but my attention tends to be instinctively drawn towards things that move and things that are bright, something I'm probably not all alone with, considering modern age advertisements like to use bright flashing lights to draw attention and most games darken skills on cooldown.

    That said, I'm okay with circles on principle - but make them dark circles. As it is, skills on cooldown draw more innate attention than skills that aren't and that is, uh...a little bittle counterintuitive.
    You are not alone with it, but the reason we are drawn to bright moving things isn't because of advertising. It's vice versa: the reason why advertisements have bright moving things are because we are naturally drawn to it. Test with any baby. To draw our attention with 20 white circles when we can't use them is stupid. Just look at the hotbar in the picture I quoted. What do you look at first? I would expect the brighter colorful icons, which is good because they are the ones available.
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    Last edited by Reinha; 02-25-2016 at 06:40 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    You are not alone with it, but the reason we are drawn to bright moving things isn't because of advertising.
    I didn't mean to imply that, but thanks for clarifying either way :P
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