So, apparently, we're getting MORE HP for the SAME dps...

[Blitzace]

Wanna start the issue again where HP was never the issue as it does not increase def? And there were no real tankbusters? you would struggle as much with a STR tank as you would do with a VIT tank.

The only difference a noob healer now has a few more seconds to react.

[Brianmj]

Well the point of the adjustment was to reinforce the trinity. Tanks should be tanks, not dps masquerading as tanks. WARs will still do the most dps out of all the tanks, just a little less now, and just a little farther from the limits of MCH/BRD.

[bete-immonde]

Well the point of the adjustment was to reinforce the trinity. Tanks should be tanks, not dps masquerading as tanks. WARs will still do the most dps out of all the tanks, just a little less now, and just a little farther from the limits of MCH/BRD.

before 3.2 1000 after 3MINS with str
now 800 after 1MIN it means plus than 200 dps cauz if you keep continue till 3min you will loose more for sure
thats look like ARR tank dps
between xenosyvex will lose his communauty thanks SE for killin people who tryin to stream this game

[Jeibird]

before 3.2 1000 after 3MINS with str
now 800 after 1MIN it means plus than 200 dps cauz if you keep continue till 3min you will loose more for sure
thats look like ARR tank dps
between xenosyvex will lose his communauty thanks SE for killin people who tryin to stream this game

didnt you state the parse was doing the dps test as a PALADIN, as in, the literal weakest dps tank job, str accesories or no? i havent been tanking for too horribly long and i cant make much sense of parsing, but i think its safe to assume youll be doing more dps than a pally

the devs already admitted they went overbored with dps checks recently and will be scaling it back. and like others have mention, reinforcing that tanks should......tank. if you have such a hard on for pure damage numbers maybe level MNK.....? or BLM if you really truly want to see 4 digit crits again, as i assume no more 10K+ fell cleave is the reason youre losing youre shit here

[HoodRat]

didnt you state the parse was doing the dps test as a PALADIN, as in, the literal weakest dps tank job, str accesories or no? i havent been tanking for too horribly long and i cant make much sense of parsing, but i think its safe to assume youll be doing more dps than a pally

the devs already admitted they went overbored with dps checks recently and will be scaling it back. and like others have mention, reinforcing that tanks should......tank. if you have such a hard on for pure damage numbers maybe level MNK.....? or BLM if you really truly want to see 4 digit crits again, as i assume no more 10K+ fell cleave is the reason youre losing youre shit here

He said he only had 300 dps. I don't think the game is the problem.

[Jamillion]

We lost about 20% DPS. My War attack power was 1040 in party at i203 full str, at i208 full fending I have 841

[Ultear_Milkovich]

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I just did some testing.

Before 3.2 I was doing 1070 on a 2.45 minutes dummy parse, 1045 STR DRK (non BiS at all), no food, no potions nor party buffs.

Today my best try is 868 in full VIT, 851 in full STR.

That said, the job is very competitive on AOEs, then I will probably take advantage of these brand new 22600 HP (grouped) to pull moar things and AOE them to death like a retard. Moar trash mobs in my salted earth / unleash / abyssal spam = moar dps at the end why not?

Also you are not going to pull 300 dps unless you queue with a 60 weaver T_T.

Even though this nerf sucks a little bit especially for someone who liked to solo/duo things (for fun onlty though) i ll keep on tanking things because i love it and because soon ill get my dps back with the i240 gear, but this time with 12K HP more.

Also some tanks will prolly leave so it will be good to stay and shine.

My 2 cents.

[KingFrost]

Gotta admit, the fact that some tanks will quit tanking because less DeePeeEss is pretty funny to me.

Like... literally nothing has changed about how the jobs function. You can still maximize DPS and contribute via damage and utility to trials, raids and dungeons. The que time will still be hella fast, and you're still going to be tanking. Just hitting a little less hard and with more health.

Is this game's meta this obsessive with damage? Even when the damage isn't/won't be necessary, it's this big of a deal?

[Divine_Intervention]

Tank dps? Don't care. Now i don't have to worry about my hp. Don't get me wrong, i throw in dps where i can, but as i was taught a long time ago on an mmo far far away "you're there to soak damage and wave your arms in the enemies face". I'll leave top notch dps to those who are actually dps.

[Malicewolf]

Gotta admit, the fact that some tanks will quit tanking because less DeePeeEss is pretty funny to me.

Like... literally nothing has changed about how the jobs function. You can still maximize DPS and contribute via damage and utility to trials, raids and dungeons. The que time will still be hella fast, and you're still going to be tanking. Just hitting a little less hard and with more health.

Is this game's meta this obsessive with damage? Even when the damage isn't/won't be necessary, it's this big of a deal?

Yes, it is the meta for the elite in this game. They want to maximize their role to their utmost efficiency. Honestly, I don't mind this mindset (until it becomes forced upon others unnecessarily). I haven't run end game content nearly as much as some people, but I've very often been complimented on my tanking. A while back, I ran into a parser and I was very curious! I found however, that my DPS was horrid. Granted, I also wasn't maximizing (and I knew I wasn't at the time), but my PLD in A4N parsed at only 391. I was dumbfounded at how low the number was (though... I was dead for a tad bit... as it was my first time in A4N at the time). The person parsing was nice enough to do A1N to check my DPS again while I tried to maximize. I was quite sad to find out I still only managed mid to high 500's (faust was 550 ish, Opp was 590ish). Granted, I've never messed up my (very simple) rotations as much in my life, and I kept freaking out between SwO and ShO cause I knew I was being parsed this time (I'm great under pressure...) and messed up a few of my goring blade and RoH macro's because of switching stances (and thus, not doing my final combo).

Anywho, that was a bit off topic, but the point being, I found out that my DPS was crap, but I was still considered a "good" tank by many. Even running with people who said they've run through Alex Savage a billion times and blah blah blah. Good DPS will still bring down mobs quickly. Good healers will upkeep their team. Good tanks will keep aggro. All three will still commit to damaging enemies.

Now-a-days, I'm much more committed to stance dancing with my PLD where I feel comfortable and I can say, I notice a considerable difference myself personally. Unfortunately, no one I usually run with has noticed anything different though =( Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing...