Mentor channel abuse

[Galgarion]

Mentor abuse? Oh no!

Johnny was a new lancer fresh off the carriage to Gridania. He didn't really know anything about the game. He was lost and confused. Just how Shark Mcguilicutty liked them.

"Hey, kid," he said. "You new around here?"

"Sure am, Mister!" Johnny said enthusiastically. "I wanna be a lancer! Gosh it sure is big around here."

"Yeah, yeah," Shark said affably. "You need a mentor, kid. Yeeeeeah. You got a good look. How good are you with sewing machines?"

Mothers, don't you children get bad mentors! It's an awful world!

[Jeibird]

[I]Johnny was a new lancer fresh off the carriage to Gridania.

i honestly thought u were about to bust a rhyme when i started reading your post

Johnny was a new lancer, fresh off the carriage, questin, leveling, hey this place is a bit garish
When a couple a guys, up to no good, started making trouble with their mentorhood
He makes one little gil purchase and Square got scared
They said "emergency maintenance until we can make this fair"

[Mykll]

i honestly thought u were about to bust a rhyme when i started reading your post

Johnny was a new lancer, fresh off the carriage, questin, leveling, hey this place is a bit garish
When a couple a guys, up to no good, started making trouble with their mentorhood
He makes one little gil purchase and Square got scared
They said "emergency maintenance until we can make this fair"

I thought he was going to do it, then I thought you were.

Something about

Johnny you rosin up your bow and play your fiddle hard
'Cause hell's broke loose in Gridania and the Devil deals the cards

Or something....

[DisFlavored]

We had people sending blind invites as well, but we got our green numbers up and quite a few of them needed the help. The biggest confusion we had was how the new leafs could bow out. It came up like every 5 minutes. Thinking of making a macro to tell them how >.>

There was some mentor drama because someone kicked a green leaf for making a lewd joke. All hell ensued.
I don't think any mentor should be able to kick someone out with just one click, I would rather have a vote like vote dismiss in dungeons. However, with up to 100 mentors in the channel, it might need to be restricted to mentors not in instances, cutscenes, or afk.

As far as bots in the network, there was talk of this and we thought the likely reason was because some of the bots/gil sellers don't have ridiculous names and genuinely look like greenies.

[Vurtney]

Mentor abuse? Oh no!

Johnny was a new lancer fresh off the carriage to Gridania. He didn't really know anything about the game. He was lost and confused. Just how Shark Mcguilicutty liked them.

"Hey, kid," he said. "You new around here?"

"Sure am, Mister!" Johnny said enthusiastically. "I wanna be a lancer! Gosh it sure is big around here."

"Yeah, yeah," Shark said affably. "You need a mentor, kid. Yeeeeeah. You got a good look. How good are you with sewing machines?"

Mothers, don't you children get bad mentors! It's an awful world!

Little did Johnny know it's a cruel world out there. Johnny now spends his days in a Gridanian sweatshop making pants for lvl 1 characters.

Jokes aside, i've been eye balling the chat on my server and to my surprise it has been mostly civilized discussions and tips. Sure the mentor to sprout ratio is 10 to 1 but nonetheless it's working here.

There needs to be a system in place for kicking afk mentors from the channel. Half the channel was afk this morning.

[Unittj]

New Adventurer: Man! I want to learn to heal so bad! I love helping people!
Me: Helping people? hands over a hatchet Check this out!
New Adventurer: Wait...this isn't...
Me: Looks great! Now, cut this tree.
New Adventurer: How does this help me learn how to heal?
Me: Cause you're getting close to nature, now I need 100 elm logs before dark. Chop chop.

[Mykll]

New Adventurer: Man! I want to learn to heal so bad! I love helping people!
Me: Helping people? hands over a hatchet Check this out!
New Adventurer: Wait...this isn't...
Me: Looks great! Now, cut this tree.
New Adventurer: How does this help me learn how to heal?
Me: Cause you're getting close to nature, now I need 100 elm logs before dark. Chop chop.

That is funny, because that is how I found my guild Espers in Ultima Online. I'd play at work and basically chopped wood and made bow stuff all day. Started trading logs and joined up with them lol.

[aesteval]

How does this work for joining the channel, because Ive been online 24-7 since the patch and only got into it once, then left it, but now can't get back in it. Does it require area change because it sure does not automatically invite you in a queue, or if it did, it does not work on Hyperion.

When you log in or change areas you'll be automatically be put in the chat if there's room. No queue, just whoever's the first to be spotted by the system when there's room.

[Rylium]

All I have noticed so far is other than the legit "advice" some new people get is a lot of excess spam and nonsense banter between mentors in some sort of "measuring contest", esp while sprouts are around. During the chat, a couple of the sprouts had even asked to be kicked, so they didn't have to be a part of all the spam. Some do feel very intimidated with all this going on too , being new and not wanting to seem like they are interrupting the ramblings. Speaking of, there should be an option for the spouts to leave without being kicked.

Overall I'd have to say that the channel is helpful and has a lot of potential but some are just in it for the "look at me" aspect which no one really need to hear, taking away from its purpose. I spoke out on a couple occasions only to be passive-aggressively scolded by a couple of the ringleaders in the channel. People seem to forget that it is intended as a place to help, not to feel special/elite and above others involved.