Needed fix to allow for Drk/Pld raid partys

[Valkyrie-Amber]

Ok let’s review the two benefits of the three tank classes provide

Warrior's: Storm's Eye Combo Bonus: Decreases target's slashing resistance by 10% and HP recovery via healing magic by 20% (Duration: 20s)

Dark Knights: Delirium Combo Bonus: Reduces target's INT by 10% (Duration: 20s)

While paladin lacks any party dps boosting skills.

I propose this change
Remove Monks INT debuff from Dragon Kick
Remove Ninjas Slashing debuff from Dancing Edge

Then add both debuffs to PLD's combo bonus for Royal Authority, but if possible make what debuff depend on what other tank is in party.
So if Dark knight make Royal Authority work as a Slashing debuff
So if Warrior make Royal Authority work as a INT debuff

Balance wise for light parties disable both because balance probably wouldn’t be that good. Or maybe just make it default to slashing.

Then you can buff dark potency’s to be comparable to PLD's ones and maybe lower potency’s slightly on Warrior.

This way all tanks become a viable choice and will defeat the constant drk pld fight for tank slot two.

[Pence]

So your balance solution for tanks....is to take away utility from the melee DPS with the least utility?

[Valkyrie-Amber]

.... why not allow the tanks to do them debuffs?

atm the ballance still favors DRK/WAR combos incase you dident realise.

[Pence]

You're logic is sound.

Tanks should also get trick attack, mages ballad, armys. Hell, toss is cure, raise and aetherflow why you're at it. Why not allow the tanks to do them?

*My spelling is sound. Leaving it there but.

[Galgarion]

Orrrrrr we can check out the new content tomorrow and base our suggestions on actual class performance, instead of preemptively assuming your class is going to suck and needs a booster seat.

[Valkyrie-Amber]

.... did I say they should get them debuffs too in op?


No I didn’t

[Valkyrie-Amber]

to break the WAR/DRK prefered combo changes like what I'm saying is needed,

like is monks or nins dps gonna drop to nothing takeing away them two things?

edit: I main a monk and played right dps is good as for nins well... your class needs some work still... though nins played well at low ping can give good drgs and monks a run for their money.

Please leave dps change ideas in dps forum section though because this is kind of the tank section. Yes I have no nin leveled but am somewhat familiar with your dps for raid reasons...

[Sarcatica]

There is no point for any fix for DRK/PLD, since you can bring NIN for slashing debuff. Sure, it will not be as good as having WAR, but better than gimping the MNK/NIN's DPS (based on your suggestion) since they are supposed to DPS anyway.

In the first place, all these min/max-ing are largely for raiders who aim to clear contents ASAP (very often in a much lower ilvl). The changes in 3.2 seems to be insufficient comparing to WAR's, but 3.2 hasn't come out yet and you are judging.

There are already some cases of DRK/PLD comp doing A4S, so it certainly isn't that broken by any means.

[Valkyrie-Amber]

don't you not see if buffs I mentioned were done then nin and monk wouldn’t be debatable and all...

Also the PLD's clearing as4 are just cause second clearers just want to be noted for clearing second with an impossible party cause first place was taken by war/drk.

They are geared far more than first world clearers btw. so there’s no balance in this...

[Kaeoni]

If you got rid of Dancing edge's ability to slap on a Slashing resistance down no one would use Dancing Edge. It might as well be a PvP only ability. No one cares about 20% less healing in PvE
Then what happens if Ninja gets paired with Dark Knights? We just dil with it?

And what about Monks paired with Warriors? Just no Int down allowed?

Why shouldn't Ninja be able to throw up slashing debuff?
Why shouldn't Monks be able to throw up Int Debuff?
Why is Paladin so entitled that they can take from what other classes have? Because it's a tank?

#CheckYourPrivilege
Damn i got to use that twice today!

No perfect balance is ever going to be found while trying to make classes unique and different from one another. I'm not saying this as an excuse for their not to be changes to level the playing field.
BUT!.... I think Buffs are better than Nerfs. And that's how companies generally tackle balancing issues nowadays. Hopefully the Inc Patch will dissolve all our worries and put our hearts to rest!