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    Mim Silmaril
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    I don't buy this Unukalhai => (lesser) Ascian, just because of the last cutscene involving him.
    An Ascian showing something like fear and drawing his mage staff just because a garlean legatus shows up? Did any Ascian ever draw a weapon on impulse, to defend himself? I don't think so and I think Unukalhai acted all human.

    Also this mask-thing... 1) If it's a morphed Elidibus, why wear a mask? Can't you change your face (what we've never seen before anyway), too?
    2) If it's anyone else, we won't meet (or haven't met yet) in other circumstances, why wear a mask?

    I don't remember precisly, but was it Unukalhai's mask which was picked up from the table in the end of MSQ? I just don't buy this 'an Ascian who dresses up physically, to hide his identity', because.. rly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    I don't buy this Unukalhai => (lesser) Ascian, just because of the last cutscene involving him.
    An Ascian showing something like fear and drawing his mage staff just because a garlean legatus shows up? Did any Ascian ever draw a weapon on impulse, to defend himself? I don't think so and I think Unukalhai acted all human.

    Also this mask-thing... 1) If it's a morphed Elidibus, why wear a mask? Can't you change your face (what we've never seen before anyway), too?
    2) If it's anyone else, we won't meet (or haven't met yet) in other circumstances, why wear a mask?

    I don't remember precisly, but was it Unukalhai's mask which was picked up from the table? I just don't buy this 'an Ascian who dresses up physically, to hide his identity', because.. rly?
    Its beacuse of the significate of the word "Unukalhai", that everyone has so many doubts about the kid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    snip?
    You're a SMN, come on now. Everything you've said there is answered in the SMN questline. I replied to you above about the weapons, but yes, Lesser Ascians use weapons. Chalice is the only one that doesn't - he's the exception, not the rule. Don't you remember fighting them? You kill off the rest of Lahabrea's Lesser servants alongside Chalice; one uses a Sword (unsurprisingly Sword), the other uses a BLM staff like Unukalhai.

    As for the masks - because Lesser Ascians wear masks. Keep in mind they need to inhabit corpses, this likely has something to do with the decay on their face. Though I really think it's more symbolic than anything to do with the condition of the bodies they inhabit. But all Lesser Ascians have the full face mask. We have yet to see an exception under any circumstance when they're robed. The one exception was from 1.0 and things were...different back then. We don't even know if it was a Lesser Ascian.

    You seem to be confounding Lesser Ascians and Overlords, I'm not sure why you think they're "dressing up" at all. Can you elaborate on this statement with the above information in mind?

    But Unukalhai doesn't show fear to Regula. Where are you getting that? He draws his weapon. That's all.
    Read the dialogue again. He's defending himself, but fear? No. Quite the opposite, he tells Regula off.

    I doubt it. You Garleans never learn. You covet the means to enslave primals─but in your headlong dash to control that which you do not understand, you show less wisdom than the very beast tribes that summoned them!
    As for the mask, no it's different. The mask in the ending sequence is a halfmask, Unukalhai's is full.
    Edit: To Frederick, it's a lot, lot more than that. I have a huge post edited up there with evidence. Also, look at the last page for some quotes.
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    Last edited by CyrilLucifer; 03-10-2016 at 05:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
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    great theory, that was a really well-thought and interesting read!
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    Can I ask what was the mask being picked up right after Yda and Pap had a scene? I didn't recognize it.
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    So... What happened to Midgardsormr? Dude just flew off at the end of 3.0 and we haven't seen him since... Dude is the worst father ever... He is the Britta of Dragons... You'd think being as old as time would mean you'd have learned how to discipline your damned kids...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    He's trying to put his Silvertear Seal puzzle back together. Unfortunately, he doesn't realize it's a lot simpler if you start at the corners...
    The one he broke? Still can't get over that... All the ways to take out the Garleans, and he opts to crash their ship into his seal... Even if that was a "Primals will get summoned and that'll slow them down!" like I've seen suggested in the past... No, he is a giant serpent who can coil around their ship and crush it, nevermind the mouth beam of death... I'm pretty sure he could scare them off alone if he didn't opt to coil around a crashing ship and "die" with it...

    "Where the serpent lies" in Sephirots lyrics is becoming more and more questionable the more I dwell on this... I'd rather have a suddenly evil wyrm, than one that is seemingly as incompetent as Middy is coming off as...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    So... What happened to Midgardsormr? Dude just flew off at the end of 3.0 and we haven't seen him since... Dude is the worst father ever... He is the Britta of Dragons...
    He's trying to put his Silvertear Seal puzzle back together. Unfortunately, he doesn't realize it's a lot simpler if you start at the corners...
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    Aaliyah Rose
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    It's been a long time since I screamed at a character for anything in any game/anime. I wasn't expecting Estinien to show up so soon and dive on Vidofnir's back....NOOOOO HOW COULD YOU!!!??? Although it was actually Nidhogg's doing, he almost runied everything that the meeting stood for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaliyahrose View Post
    It's been a long time since I screamed at a character for anything in any game/anime. I wasn't expecting Estinien to show up so soon and dive on Vidofnir's back....NOOOOO HOW COULD YOU!!!??? Although it was actually Nidhogg's doing, he almost runied everything that the meeting stood for.
    This game is not allowed to have anything happy, don't ya know? Besides, the Dragonsong War is still raging on, so I expect more troll moments from Nidhogg until he's finally put down for good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    This game is not allowed to have anything happy, don't ya know? Besides, the Dragonsong War is still raging on, so I expect more troll moments from Nidhogg until he's finally put down for good.
    It's not like they killed off Vidofnir or Honoroit. It's hardly 'Game of Thrones' style misery. They also outright stated in advance that this expansion would be darker than the last - and honestly I find that rather refreshing when there's an abundance of lighthearted MMO's out there. It's not as if they shy away from humour either.
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