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    Player JackFross's Avatar
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    Eve Malqir
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuni_Queen View Post
    Why would you loose aggro to WAR on Delieverence, until you are one of those paladins "sorry, forgot shield oath"? And until OT makes a "good job" of OTing in defiance, which is stupid, especially that WAR's enmity stance does not eat up 15% of your max MP and is oGCD.
    Because I'm not some scared tank who tanks Midas Normal in Shield Oath/Grit 100% of the time? There's literally no reason to use Shield Oath for Blaster or Swindler, even as MT. There's no reason to use Shield Oath during the tiny-gob phases on Ratfinx. There's no reason to be in Shield Oath in Quickthinx unless you're solo-tanking. Even then, only for Uplander Doom (the ones you don't HG the stacks away for). And there's no reason to ever turn Shield Oath on in A8, except to grab snap aggro during phase 2 and the start of final phase.

    This, of course, is ignoring the fact that (in general) I pull in Shield Oath and follow:
    FB>SB>RoH>FB>RB>SwO>FoF>GB
    for every single one of the listed fights, save Ratfinx. I'll also pull in SwO on Quickthinx, ideally, but I need my NIN friend with Shadewalker to do so safely.

    Tanking in Sword Oath with a WAR who doesn't manage their enmity in Deliverance makes it /very easy/ to lose hate.


    Or am I just supposed to turtle and be a ShO tank because ShO is the tank stance? I tend to like to push my 1k dps on the A6 bosses, even while being MT. I use RoH while in SwO to maintain hate. A Warrior in Deliverance with Berserk up spamming BB will tear that boss right off of me, and there's nothing I can do about it. All I'm saying is that, if this happens, I just let the WAR tank. Manage your aggro or be the MT - that's all there is to it. It's 40 potency to just use a Storm's Path instead of Butcher's Block and not pull hate if you're close. It's a 90 potency drop for me to RoH instead of RA. I'm likely beating the WAR /anyway/ if this is DF, so I can't be arsed to let them be shit.
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    Last edited by JackFross; 03-26-2016 at 12:34 AM.