If You Were A Class/Job Designer...

[Shurrikhan]

Felt like bumping this since this thread has picked up steam.

I'd actually dislike quite a few of these changes if done, or feel that their outputs would be better served through different means.

PLD:

• 2. Placing a TP restore on Shelltron further niches PLDs out of magic-only fights and into the MT role. You've mentioned disliking how much of DRK's utility is locked to MT, so why would you worsen the same for PLD? Why further make WAR the OT, and the kick the non-WARs into the MT-as-often-as-possible-war-cds-are-for-fell-cleave corner?
• 3. This would cut its potential per-event healing done in half. It takes less than 45s to regain the full mana cost as is, and far less when making use of Shelltron. We'd end up again having nothing to use our mana on (except for the oGCD oath changes in [4]).
• 4. With what, if any, recast timer? Given the change to Clemency, there's very, very little to keep this from being considerably stronger than Defiance/Deliverance when the 20% mitigation exceeds the value of +20% healing taken. Nevermind, you got rid of the delayed eHP increase, so given even value of healing and mitigation, the two swap systems are equally powerful. Will PLD's then also be at 10s recast?

WAR:

• 2. So we further make SE cost nothing for WARs in WAR/NIN combos? Well, not going to change anything in that regard, at least. /shrug. I'd like to at least see BB enmity increased by the 3.7% lost, though, as it's then even less desirable to use when the WAR needs both Storms. Long live OT WAR?
• 3/4. Why? Just... why? Did WAR not have enough internal conflict among its mechanics that it needed more reason to waste its stacks? Overpower is much more intuitive to prep or waste combos for than any stack-generating ability.
• 5. This was the one bit that made stance-dancing interesting in itself for WAR... Why would you remove that? Just to buff it to Oath/Grit levels?

DRK:

• 1. Why not on the DA-DD as well? At that rate the value of the non-DA DD may well outweigh the DA form's.
• 2. Free Souleater three times per minute? When you already take 6+ minutes to run out of TP?
• 3. That'd be hugely more valuable than either Dancing Edge or Storm's Eye. Hugely. Only 10 potency wasted on its own application, as compared to 60 in applying Storm's Eye. PLD's lack of slashing debuff now sticks sorely, whereas it used to seem WAR-unique among tanks. And it's still an instant 575 DoT to boot...?