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    DWolfwood's Avatar
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    Dylan Wolfwoodicus
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Doing a write up on my issues with DRK, but as for what I want them to be defined as...

    PLD: Healing Magic / High Defense
    WAR: High HP / Party Buffing (e.g. "Warcry" would boost party's AP by _% for _seconds.)
    DRK: High DPS / Magic Based focusing around Drain Spells

    PLD should receive an enmity boost to Clemency and allow shields to prevent interruption. WAR should stay mostly the same, with the addition of said "Warcry" ability. DRK is the one that would be greatly changed. I'll be talking more about it in my write up, but their DPS should be heavily buffed overall to stand out as the high-dps tank.
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    Tanathya's Avatar
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    Selena Schwarz
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    Ragnarok
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DWolfwood View Post
    Doing a write up on my issues with DRK, but as for what I want them to be defined as...

    PLD: Healing Magic / High Defense
    WAR: High HP / Party Buffing (e.g. "Warcry" would boost party's AP by _% for _seconds.)
    DRK: High DPS / Magic Based focusing around Drain Spells

    PLD should receive an enmity boost to Clemency and allow shields to prevent interruption. WAR should stay mostly the same, with the addition of said "Warcry" ability. DRK is the one that would be greatly changed. I'll be talking more about it in my write up, but their DPS should be heavily buffed overall to stand out as the high-dps tank.
    Considering Square knew there would be controversy revolving around the fact that they made DRK a tank, I still don't know why they didn't give it the offtank role based on a higher damage output.
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    Syzygia Coahcuhhar
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by DWolfwood View Post
    Doing a write up on my issues with DRK
    Please no, there are already so many.

    No disrespect but I can already predict...

    "Blood Weapon in Grit!"
    "DA Dark Dance boost parry strength!"
    "Use Reprisal as OT!"
    "Reduce MP costs!"
    "Make LD not require healing!"
    "DA Dark Passenger does something other than blind!"
    "More HP absorbs!"

    Its a song and dance we all know by heart and yet when you actually go out there and play the job and play it right, none of this stuff *really* holds you back.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
    Considering Square knew there would be controversy revolving around the fact that they made DRK a tank
    This reminds me...

    Everyone here knows that Samurai, if we get it, is almost certainly not going to be a tank right?
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    Selena Schwarz
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    Ragnarok
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygian View Post
    Everyone here knows that Samurai, if we get it, is almost certainly not going to be a tank right?
    I was stating a fact there. There's been (obvious) controversy whether you like it or not, and I didn't mention SAM in the first place. Anyway, I certainly hope SAM isn't a tank anymore.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygian View Post
    Everyone here knows that Samurai, if we get it, is almost certainly not going to be a tank right?
    Considering Samurai in every other FF game has been mostly a class focused on high DPS either through raw stats or counter attacks this comment isn't amounting to much.
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    Matthias Gendrin
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Considering Samurai in every other FF game has been mostly a class focused on high DPS either through raw stats or counter attacks this comment isn't amounting to much.
    Except that I'm pretty sure that they have said multiple times, in multiple interviews, that Samurai would be a sword-based DPS class.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    Except that I'm pretty sure that they have said multiple times, in multiple interviews, that Samurai would be a sword-based DPS class.
    They said it could go either way. But as always the Samurai was always a Sword based DPS class ergo true to form. Will Samurai have Bushido skills is the main question here.
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    Sadako Yamamura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    Except that I'm pretty sure that they have said multiple times, in multiple interviews, that Samurai would be a sword-based DPS class.
    I only remember Yoshi P mentioning that he would like Samurai to be a DPS job, but has the potential as a tank and that it would require some consideration. Do you have a more recent source of this particular statement?

    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Samurai will either be a Tank or DPS most likely.
    What are you talking about? Obviously the samurai will stab you to perform healing - Fun fact: It was actually a thing in Final Fantasy Tactics with a healing staff that healed whoever you attacked (which also resulted in death of the healer if said person being healed has counter equipped)
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    Syzygia Coahcuhhar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Considering Samurai in every other FF game has been mostly a class focused on high DPS either through raw stats or counter attacks this comment isn't amounting to much.
    Uh, almost every post on these forums remotely to do with a samurai job right now is assuming its going to be a tank. I just don't want any more drk-style butthurt where people expect a job to be x and se decides to make it y and people qq about it forever.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygian View Post
    Uh, almost every post on these forums remotely to do with a samurai job right now is assuming its going to be a tank. I just don't want any more drk-style butthurt where people expect a job to be x and se decides to make it y and people qq about it forever.
    Well in the event Samurai is a novelty name class and tries to be something it is not you might just have to deal with people crying about it forever. People cried about the Warrior in 2.0, they cry about it now for other reasons in 3.0 and will likely continue and the same is true for your beloved Dark Knight although it's more a Magic Knight if anything.
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