Are gladiators useless now?

[Raikki]

I am a rank 47 gladiator, and I have heard that with the many tweaks and changes done in 1,19 has made gladiator the lesser class compared to marauder and pugilist. Is this true?

GLA is in a pretty bad place. The good news is that you can tank effectively on it and you have a massive HP pool. The bad news is, MRD tanks just as well if not better and does way more damage, so there's no point in using a GLA over a MRD. They have yet to get shield right since launch, so don't hold your breath for a fix until 1.21 at the earliest when we get PLD.

[Radiator]

Yeah I sure hope Paladin rocks, because Gladiator does kinda suck unless you can get good hate at the start on a single mob. Based on the emnity calculations, other jobs just blow by you too fast in the damage category (especially with materia gear).

Example- in Ixali camp party, I'm not using emnity gear because spiritbonding, but am using every other emnity action I have. I loose hate in about 2 secs to lancers and marauders (even PUG). If I use taunt II ,it goes back to yellow. If I use Taunt II AND Provoke II it goes back to flashing read and lasts about 2-3 secs before losing it again. When the other jobs are doing 1K+ weaponskills so its a bit hard to keep up with that.

There are ways to keep hate (hate materia yes theres accomplice and cover etc) but overall I think that Provoke and Taunt just need to be adjusted to give a higher emnity number.

[Seikninkuru]

Yeah I sure hope Paladin rocks, because Gladiator does kinda suck unless you can get good hate at the start on a single mob. Based on the emnity calculations, other jobs just blow by you too fast in the damage category (especially with materia gear).

Example- in Ixali camp party, I'm not using emnity gear because spiritbonding, but am using every other emnity action I have. I loose hate in about 2 secs to lancers and marauders (even PUG). If I use taunt II ,it goes back to yellow. If I use Taunt II AND Provoke II it goes back to flashing read and lasts about 2-3 secs before losing it again. When the other jobs are doing 1K+ weaponskills so its a bit hard to keep up with that.

There are ways to keep hate (hate materia yes theres accomplice and cover etc) but overall I think that Provoke and Taunt just need to be adjusted to give a higher emnity number.

The enmity system is so bad in this game. It's a huge turn off for me at the moment. Anyone who thinks that Curing to get and maintain hate is a good system for tanking in these games is retarded I'm sorry. People wanted specialized roles, why do I have to heal? Why do the hate skills not have the correct scaling considering the GLA lower damage potential?

Thing is a mess and it's only the players ingeneuity that has even made it tolerable up to this point.

[Taylor_Morris]

I've leveled Thaumaturge from 1 to 44 in the past two days partying and I would just like to say that I only remember the "good tanks" being Gladiators. I'm not saying there weren't any good Marauder tanks, because there were, I'm just saying that the special ones that I had memorable moments in partying with were all Gladiators.

[slipmac]

I've leveled Thaumaturge from 1 to 44 in the past two days partying and I would just like to say that I only remember the "good tanks" being Gladiators. I'm not saying there weren't any good Marauder tanks, because there were, I'm just saying that the special ones that I had memorable moments in partying with were all Gladiators.

thats because mrd dosent get Storm's Path till 46
that changes everything

[Taylor_Morris]

thats because mrd dosent get Storm's Path till 46
that changes everything

Yes, I remember one of the Marauders in my party earlier saying "I'm finally useful now!" after hitting level 46. Quite a statement. He was literally just standing around watching battles prior to that.

[slipmac]

Yes, I remember one of the Marauders in my party earlier saying "I'm finally useful now!" after hitting level 46. Quite a statement. He was literally just standing around watching battles prior to that.

u can have all the aoe voke you want but without any actual damage it wont stay there for long with the current system

[Ottovonawesome]

Also Wardrum II wouldn't be a bad idea.

[Nyls]

They should be fixing skills for all the classes in 1.20 so all classes should be set from there. I hope.

[GreyJorildyn]

SE just hasn't figured out how to make a tank job viable in both XP parties and raids without making it OP. When they discover the secret, things will get better.