New glamour system please!

[Alberel]

The original Diablo stored everything client side and just used Battlenet to link clients together. Not contributing to the conversation, just had to answer the all cap challenge.

Heh, Diablo wasn't really an MMO. It was an ARPG that had some sophisticated multiplayer features. The fact that the multiplayer became as big as it did was something of a surprise to Blizzard I think, hence why it was so much better fleshed out and supported in D2.

I see this thread has been moved to the User Interface board to die. This is a primary game feature discussion, not UI! /sigh

[Youkulm]

I don't see this being that difficult to make ( meaning a system where you don't have to KEEP the gear, only to have obtained it once, like a book of glamours or something of that sort. )

They likely will never do this only because of the revenue generated by retainers. With every new content update, we get more glamours which means you need more space if you don't want to throw anything out... which mean more retainers...

Frankly I find it ridiculous with the amount of content we got with 3.0 and we didn't receive an extra retainer with the unlocking of the expansion. If they wont do that... they most certainly won't do this :C

[Keramory]

I think a fair compromise would be glamor be set as a consumable action and then you set it to gear without actually needing the piece anymore. It's a Gil sink and encourages more crafting. This and it frees up inventory and is the best alternative for the servers.

Say I want to glamor some 40lvl body armor to my raid gear. I consume the 40lvl body armor and now I can glamor it to whatever I want (within the normal limitations). The 40 armor goes poof and I get to recast it as much as I want without needing the space.

Granted it'll still use up data space but let's face it, most characters won't have an obscene wardrobe option.

[Aivi_lo]

I don't want to pay any more money for retainers to store something I have earned through my sub and time spent playing the game.

[Evangela]

Cannot increase inventory space due to server limitation is (kinda) understandable.

but they have no excuse for glamour log. It's just a list of equipments you used to own so the data would be just 0 or 1 multiply with the amount of equipment in the game. so it'll be like 2 kilobytes or something like that. why can't they do it? I have no clue.

[Kerrigen]

Even WoW is adding this feature with Legion. I think it's eventually going to be implemented in this game especially with how it's being pushed by the community all the time. The question is when. The answer is "not anytime soon".
If I was leading the dev team, I would try to milk the current system + selling retainers for as long as I can (even though as a player I find it pretty revolting) because this is a pretty big and expensive feature to implement. Definitely expansion material.

[Warlyx]

the system is kinda already there with pets/TT cards, or even better OLD gear u used to have from quests and events , u can reclaim that gear using the NPC Calamity salvage...the game keeps the track of this , and u can buy gear from that NPC over and over.

if a game can keep track of what pets , mounts , and gear, the glamour log is almost already implemented.

Maybe u can select the gear and glamour from it , HOWEVER i think a solution ...select the item u want and a copy of that piece of gear could be created in your inventory and then use it as glamour...then u can drop it (u can reclaim it over and over ) all that gear of course will be 0 gil value and untradeable.

thats 1 option , it would be easy to implement a wardrobe and let ppl change glamour on the fly , but yeah is more easy to create 1000 different prism because reasons.....and if the system isnt convoluted and confusing as hell...then it must be scrapped and reworked , this a FF online game after all ¬¬

[Evangela]

I'm not sure about FFXI but any MMO that storing player data and inventory on client side is stupid. I don't believe that they do it like that in FFXI. Even that old MMO RagnarokOnline didn't do it. Only UI and other user preferences should be stored client side.

[Terrini]

I'm not sure about FFXI but any MMO that storing player data and inventory on client side is stupid. I don't believe that they do it like that in FFXI. Even that old MMO RagnarokOnline didn't do it. Only UI and other user preferences should be stored client side.

FFXI stored graphic data client side and people would swap dat graphic information to other gear graphic information and that's what people were probably referring to.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

My interface for a Glamour Log.

Glamour Log.

--> Duty Collection: Dungeons, Trials, Raids, PvP, Artifacts (AF), Tomestone gear, Commons (this last one includes basically all the gear any class can use, DoH/DoL).
-----> Raid Collections: T1~T13, A1~A8, AS1~AS8, Laberyth~Void Ark.
---------> T13 Collections: Log divides the tabs per role. With small icons inside each tab showing all the pieces of the gear, greyed out pieces for pieces yet to be obtained.

So for example, i want to find my Allagan Spear. I would have to:

Open Glamour Log, Select "Raid Collections", Select "Binding Coil of Bahamut: Turn 5 Collections", Select "Maiming Collections", Pick my Allagan Spear skin from the collection, select glamour over current gear, hit yes, consume the proper Prism and done.

In some cases players would have to go through 4 tabs instead of 3 depending on if the gear is role gear or class/job gear, probably will be the case for most of the artifact gear, this way you generate a list not longer than the duty finder, each subdivided in increasingly smaller logs till you reach a window that will just have the info on whatever you have 10 to 12 pieces of gear or not, weapons of each duty will be listed on their corresponding role/class/job tab for their corresponding window.

Of course this sounds way too simplistic, but i think is doable, and it would actually turn the horrificly clumsy and bothersome glamour system we currently have into a more accessible and easy to use system, without touching the need of prisms.

Damn, the very window could have a counter showing the kind of prism we need for each piece gear, and a search feature, and it would be pretty much done. FFXIV would go from having one of the worse vanity systems in the market to have one of the best.