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    Player papichulo123's Avatar
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    Frederick Chronos
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    New glamour system please!

    I don't want to hold on to equips anymore let me obtain the equip save the image.
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    bass9020's Avatar
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    Versatile Bottom
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    Faerie
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    It's been brought up a lot, it's too much for the devs to fit into the game currently. They also are trying to push the retainers on people. So this won't be happening anytime soon sadly.
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    Khuja'to Kurozuki
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    if this was to happend i would free up 80% of my inventory
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    It's been suggested hundreds of times. They probably don't want to do it.
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    Player papichulo123's Avatar
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    i dont understand how is it to much for them to add it in the game currently i wish a gm or someone would explain they should explain why they cant add something so many players want.
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    It's limitations with there server and memory iirc.

    Just look at past live letters yoshi says limitation like every other question
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    Franz D'epinay
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    The reason limitations is always the response, is because it really is server limitations. Unlike other MMOs, FFXIV does not store player data clientside, it is stored on the servers. They did this because SE believed players would edit the files like what happened back in FFXI with .dat file swapping. If player data was clientside, inventories would be bigger and glamours could be saved, similar to what WoW is doing with the transmog wardrobe.
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    Taisai Jin
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    Lancer Lv 64
    I never got the limitations problem... They claimed they'd rather just give us more inventory space than something like a Glamour Log, but... Wouldn't a Glamour Log store less data? I mean, all the gear currently stored on my retainer has various data attached to it; Stats, Spiritbond level, Durability, possibly stuff like Materia and Dyes, heck even Glamours, and of course the visual data for the gear... A Glamour Log, on the other hand, would just entail us taking some gear, burning it into the Log, and having ready access to that Glamour option. All that needs to be stored is the visual data in that case... Surely that is easier to work than extra inventory space?

    I believe that's why the Inn Armoire requires you to fully repair gear before you can store it in there, and why it reduces Spiritbond back to 0%, so it's storing less data. The thing is... I don't need to take gear out of the Armoire, or rather I shouldn't need to... All that gear is meaningless to me outside casting Glamours, that visual data is the only thing I care about but for some reason SE seems to think I care about the stats/etc. and would actually want to take the gear out of the thing... I don't. I want to have the ability to cast Glamour, and just have it pull up anything I've got in my Inn Armoire...

    Would make certain aspects of the game work a bit better, too... Relic Replicas, for example... Wouldn't need the current fix right now if they'd just worked in a Glamour Log that got updated with the Relics we'd upgraded. I don't need an Apocalypse Zeta Replica in that case, Apocalypse Zeta would have been in my Glamour Log the moment I obtained the weapon.

    Of course, I know why we're really not getting a Glamour Log, it's because extra retainers net SE an extra 2$/30 days per retainer. They'll work on giving us new inventory space, which we don't need (though we need more Armoury Chest space if we're getting more Jobs) and which is fairly terrible to organize in terms of Glamours, and they'll charge us extra for that every step of the way... Glamour Prisms, on the other hand, I have no idea why those stupid things exist... They just make casting Glamours an annoying pain...
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    Ultimatecalibur's Avatar
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    I never got the limitations problem... They claimed they'd rather just give us more inventory space than something like a Glamour Log, but... Wouldn't a Glamour Log store less data? I mean, all the gear currently stored on my retainer has various data attached to it; Stats, Spiritbond level, Durability, possibly stuff like Materia and Dyes, heck even Glamours, and of course the visual data for the gear... A Glamour Log, on the other hand, would just entail us taking some gear, burning it into the Log, and having ready access to that Glamour option. All that needs to be stored is the visual data in that case... Surely that is easier to work than extra inventory space?
    That is incredibly naive understanding of how databases work.

    First off, an empty variable contains as much data as a full variable. This means that a brand new empty character contains as much data as a maxed out character with a full inventory. An empty inventory is just full of blank/neutral data. The same is true for retainer inventories.

    The creation of a "Glamour Log" would add a massive amount of new data to every character. Every character's data would need to include a yes/no variable for every single piece of gear included in the Glamour Log, even if the character never even uses it. That is somewhere around 6500 new variables and their database addresses for each character currently as of 3.1 and that number will only grow as more and more patches come out. That is increasing each character's data by a massive amount.
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    Last edited by Ultimatecalibur; 02-22-2016 at 05:22 PM.

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    Mel Az
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    Cerberus
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by BHGlobbd View Post
    The reason limitations is always the response, is because it really is server limitations. Unlike other MMOs, FFXIV does not store player data clientside, it is stored on the servers. They did this because SE believed players would edit the files like what happened back in FFXI with .dat file swapping. If player data was clientside, inventories would be bigger and glamours could be saved, similar to what WoW is doing with the transmog wardrobe.
    Oh that thing will get abused surely. I'm just waiting for the first exploits.
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