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    TheJarvisMan's Avatar
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    Sym Sol
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90

    Two changes I'd really love to see for DRK...

    Just tossing out two ideas I'd love to see implemented on my main class:

    1. Remove the Grit requirement for Souleater to lifesteal. This wouldn't break anything at all, but it would be very helpful when soloing out in the open world. Also, it would help in pvp.

    2. Allow Blood Weapon to work while Grit is active, but make it generate tp (at a very reduced rate) rather than mp. This is only while Grit is active. It would still generate mp when Grit isn't active.

    If they made those two changes, DRK would be my favorite class from any MMO since FFXI.
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    Evangela's Avatar
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Give me Overpower as a cross class ability. If WARs are allowed to have Flash as their emergency AoE then DRK should have a TP-based AoE as an emergency too. I'm sick of being in situation that tons of adds pop out of nowhere and I don't have enough MP to do anything.
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    Nalien's Avatar
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    Taisai Jin
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    Twintania
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    Lancer Lv 64
    I do find Grit fairly annoying...

    Personally, I'd like to see Blood Weapon, and Blood Price (perhaps even Salted Earth) given Dark Arts effects, which switches them from MP gain to HP gain, similar to Bloodbath. Along with Living Dead conferring a persistent Dark Arts effect for its duration, perhaps even increasing the HP restored from things like Souleater/Abyssal Drain (but not the damage). That way it's less of a drop to 1HP then get Walking Dead for damage immunity and require mass healing, and more of a 10 second Drain-zerk; An all or nothing gambit to try and restore your HP back up, rather than a cheap Holmgang clone. You'd still be able to drop down to Walking Dead, but you wouldn't really want to.

    I find the HP drain aspect of Dark Knight very lacking in this iteration...

    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    Give me Overpower as a cross class ability. If WARs are allowed to have Flash as their emergency AoE then DRK should have a TP-based AoE as an emergency too. I'm sick of being in situation that tons of adds pop out of nowhere and I don't have enough MP to do anything.
    I'm annoyed we don't have Vengeance.... Vengeance + Bloodbath = Dread Spikes, something Dark Knight really should have given it's a tank here... Dark Arts + Blood Price would be a worthy replacement, though.
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    Last edited by Nalien; 02-21-2016 at 05:04 AM.

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    SpookyGhost's Avatar
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    Kori Fleming
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    I'm sick of being in situation that tons of adds pop out of nowhere and I don't have enough MP to do anything.
    http://xivdb.com/action/3625/Blood+Weapon
    http://xivdb.com/action/3631/Blood+Price
    http://xivdb.com/action/3633/Dark+Passenger
    http://xivdb.com/action/3639/Salted+Earth
    http://xivdb.com/action/3641/Abyssal+Drain
    http://xivdb.com/action/3621/Unleash
    http://xivdb.com/action/18/Provoke

    How, though?

    e: Also, how are you even in a situation where adds pop "out of nowhere"? Your first run of the dungeon/primal/raid ever? In which case... I'm not seeing why you would expel all your MP when you don't know what's going to happen next.
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    Last edited by SpookyGhost; 02-21-2016 at 05:04 AM.

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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Overpower being a crossclass for DRK would be great but learn MP management and you'll be fine.

    Only ability that sacrifices HP is Convert(and I guess Thrill of Battle lol) on BLM for more MP. A skill DRK's would love to have IMO.
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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    I'm sick of being in situation that tons of adds pop out of nowhere and I don't have enough MP to do anything.
    Unless the content you're running is new(ish), you should know when adds spawn and prepare for it. That's part of being a good (tank/dps/healer) player.
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    Odett's Avatar
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    Odett Telos
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    Give me Overpower as a cross class ability. If WARs are allowed to have Flash as their emergency AoE then DRK should have a TP-based AoE as an emergency too. I'm sick of being in situation that tons of adds pop out of nowhere and I don't have enough MP to do anything.
    that's where the MP management part of DRK comes in. Manage your MP correctly so you're not caught with your pants down when those situations happen.
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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    Give me Overpower as a cross class ability. If WARs are allowed to have Flash as their emergency AoE then DRK should have a TP-based AoE as an emergency too. I'm sick of being in situation that tons of adds pop out of nowhere and I don't have enough MP to do anything.
    Be thankful you actually have a reliable AoE ability.
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    MiniPrinny's Avatar
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    Sakura Yukimoto
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Be thankful you actually have a reliable AoE ability.
    You mean a reliable damaging one. Flash is so good that Warriors don't take it because it's an "emergency AoE." They take it because having a 360° point-blank AoE that produces rather high amount enmity, which also consumes a resource that is not your primary, and that has only a slightly smaller range than Overpower is really just that powerful.

    The only reason Dark Knights don't take Flash is because our version is better, if more expensive. :P

    Also, yeah, learn to manage your MP better. It took me getting thrown into A2S and being very opposed to leveling WAR to figure it out. A2S is the raid that shows who is a Dark Knight and who needs to try something else in terms of MP management skills.
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    Something... something... edginess... shadows... wait... I'm supposed to be a paragon of love and justice!

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    Tyrial's Avatar
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    Tyrial Highguard
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    Sargatanas
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MiniPrinny View Post
    You mean a reliable damaging one. Flash is so good that Warriors don't take it because it's an "emergency AoE." They take it because having a 360° point-blank AoE that produces rather high amount enmity, which also consumes a resource that is not your primary, and that has only a slightly smaller range than Overpower is really just that powerful.
    Most WARs have dropped Flash from their cross class list ages ago. It's fairly useless between having access to on-demand AoEs (Infuriate + Steel Cyclone) and Overpower. It only ever really had a use in T13 to grab the three dragons as they spawned since they weren't able to be targeted right away and Flash would still hit them. Overpower is vastly superior if you know how to position yourself properly to hit everything you need to grab.
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