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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuru View Post
    Paladins get shiel- oh wait..
    Monks get fist weapo- oh wait..
    but..

    WARRIORS get Axes- .. you know what, im done with this. You are right.
    I <3 your post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DexterityJones View Post
    as a monk you can find the hole and fill it with a fist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fensfield View Post
    I think I'd prefer to not have a dragon as a Dragoon, either - yeah I know they sound the same, but the origin of the word hasn't much at all to do with fire-breathing lizards anyway. I don't know it just feels a bit iffy to get forced to rely on a pet of some sort when I came to the class for the big pointy sticks.
    Though we may be on the opposite side on where we want our dragons - as I love dragons - I'm happy at least someone that prefers Dragoon understands the symbolism of a Dragoon and the polearm, that they were anti-dragon and not pro-dragon (Dark Knight is more of a pro-dragon class since a Dark Knight is more likely to befriend a dragon, but some other classes would include examples such as necromancy, sorcery, and pyromancy.)
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fensfield View Post
    I think I'd prefer to not have a dragon as a Dragoon, either - yeah I know they sound the same, but the origin of the word hasn't much at all to do with fire-breathing lizards anyway.
    I thought they were named after French soldiers that carried firearms and were called "dragons" in French. Because guns shoot fire like a dragon and all. Feel free to help fill me in otherwise.

    Regardless though, the Japanese name for the FF job is 竜騎士 - dragon knight. They're definitely related to dragons, although in what way varies from game to game as many others have pointed out.
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    I <3 your post.
    lol thanks but yours only made sense.

    Dragoons do not NEED the wyvern to diversify them from the rest of the classes. It was unique to FFXI, I am sure Dragoons in this game will be just as unique.
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  5. #105
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    The point behind dragoon is it's natural advantage against dragon type monsters, not the pet wyvern itself. If you really consider dragoon's original conception of being a class that specifically slays dragons, having a dragon for a pet doesn't make sense at all.
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    I dont get the obsession with the Wyvern pet, Dragoon never had one till FFXI, and it was nice to have, but not really needed. (as in they could have designed DRG in FFXI without it)
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    That is what I always thought, isn't Dragoon supposed to be a Dragon-killer or a Dragon Knight? (Like in Legend of the Dragoon)

    I understand that a pet wyvern had never been done before and was actually pretty useful in FFXI, but for the sake of keeping Beastmaster and Summoner unique in this game, I do not think it should be implemented. Who knows what will happen after Dragoons get pets. Puppetmaster all over again? X_X
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    It's not the fact that the wyvern was needed. It was just a fun concept. To own your own little dragon and helped when soloing (like when running from something you cant handle and letting the wyvern take the fall). It was just more defining ith classes in ffxi and I think that is what dragoons need is some more diveresity especially since we have a lancer class already. Now if they had a different theme for dragoon like a darker feel or even with dragon abilities then I can see ditching the pet.

    You know maplestory kinda had a cool concept for having a dragon pet. It grew with your level and eventualy became your mount. Now that would be defining.

    Also no need to worry about ishgard lore because all will be dead in 2.0 (for the most part) plus they are talking about a dragon like race in the distant future.
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    Yeah, I've seen quite a few Dragoons from Ishgard in quest instances. None of them had pet dragons. I don't think they get along too well, considering they're pretty much lusting to kill a dragon at any given moment.
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  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alastar View Post
    It's not the fact that the wyvern was needed. It was just a fun concept. To own your own little dragon and helped when soloing (like when running from something you cant handle and letting the wyvern take the fall). It was just more defining ith classes in ffxi and I think that is what dragoons need is some more diveresity especially since we have a lancer class already. Now if they had a different theme for dragoon like a darker feel or even with dragon abilities then I can see ditching the pet.

    You know maplestory kinda had a cool concept for having a dragon pet. It grew with your level and eventualy became your mount. Now that would be defining.

    Also no need to worry about ishgard lore because all will be dead in 2.0 (for the most part) plus they are talking about a dragon like race in the distant future.
    Have a source for this Dragon race? Probably something I didn't read.

    However, they did in a recent interview state that certain Dragoon quests would tie into Ishgard in the future, so the lore is being kept in-tact from the sounds of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DexterityJones View Post
    as a monk you can find the hole and fill it with a fist.

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