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    Orpheus Dubhan
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    Why did PLD get such a buff

    Darks will be left in the dark after this. Not only did PLD get a huge buff mnk got one they didn't really need. So will someone tell me why a sword and board can out dps a great sword? It just doesn't make sense.
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    Awful Name
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Because no one was playing paladin in Alex savage and wasn't able to clear unless they switched to Drk and War due to the high DPS they bring, so paladins had to wait until they had enough gear and which by then the rewards didn't justify the means. The reason paladin got these buffs is so that all 3 tanks are viable in content and that one's not left out which is why everyone can do content with every tank as the next tier of Alex is not going to be as DPS check heavy (from what we know of) it'll be more mechanic based. Drks are very strong tanks and even compared to paladin they have more options as cover, tempered will are still not used in paladins tool kits, but at least they got a buff to Clemency and Divine Veil which is a step to the direction. Drk uses ALL of their toolkit and it works well with them i'll stand by that till the end, these changes were needed to balance all 3 tank classes and not leave paladin yet again in raid content.

    Tldr; paladins won't out dps Drks they haven't nor will they just needed these changes in order to keep up with the other tanks and secure a tanking spot rather than lose it again in new raid content.
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    Last edited by Awful; 02-21-2016 at 04:19 AM.

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    Kori Fleming
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orpheus65478 View Post
    So will someone tell me why a sword and board can out dps a great sword?
    It won't. Happy to help.
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    Famine Cruor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orpheus65478 View Post
    Darks will be left in the dark after this. Not only did PLD get a huge buff mnk got one they didn't really need. So will someone tell me why a sword and board can out dps a great sword? It just doesn't make sense.
    You can take a little time out of your day to compare The Dark Knight's attack potency and sheer breath of OCD attacks (and newly reduced TP costs) with the newly buffed Paladin's adjustments and see that you're completely wrong and should stop complaining before doing your homework.
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    Naomi Enami
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    20 potency here and 30 potency there is exactly what I laughed with my friends about SE's PLD buffs... PLD still has 0 DPS GCDs like Flash. PLD still has iffy at best CD gaps. PLD just got a little bit more viable and less clunky. Imo, it probably is still the worst of the three.
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    Syzygia Coahcuhhar
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    DRK is still ahead of PLD in DPS in OT and MT slots, and is the potentially highest MT DPS. DPS isn't the problem with DRK. Utility is, at this point.

    Look at the balance of the melee DPS for guidance. Its arguably perfect:

    MNK: best DPS, worst utility
    DRG: high DPS, high utility
    NIN: worst DPS, best utility

    Why SE seems incapable/unwilling to strike this balance with the 3 tanks escapes me.

    Currently DRK is the DRG of tanks on DPS, but the MNK of tanks on utility. Come now.
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    Last edited by Syzygian; 02-21-2016 at 05:57 AM.

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    Damien Belmont
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygian View Post
    MNK: best DPS, worst utility
    DRG: high DPS, high utility
    NIN: worst DPS, best utility


    Currently DRK is the DRG of tanks on DPS, but the MNK of tanks on utility. Come now.
    That is very well said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orpheus65478 View Post
    Darks will be left in the dark
    Thanks for making me laugh very hard
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    Al'tani I'rieseith
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    OP clearly knows things, folks.
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    Rys Sol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygian View Post
    DRK is still ahead of PLD in DPS in OT and MT slots, and is the potentially highest MT DPS. DPS isn't the problem with DRK. Utility is, at this point.

    Look at the balance of the melee DPS for guidance. Its arguably perfect:

    MNK: best DPS, worst utility
    DRG: high DPS, high utility
    NIN: worst DPS, best utility

    Why SE seems incapable/unwilling to strike this balance with the 3 tanks escapes me.

    Currently DRK is the DRG of tanks on DPS, but the MNK of tanks on utility. Come now.
    Nah, if you want DRK to be considered the DRG of tanks, it shouldn't be able to outDPS WAR in any situation. But it does.
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