Why 2.0 maps will be instantly opened now?

**myahele** · 02-21-2016 02:22 AM

I can understand the dungeons since it's so easy to miss those nooks and crannies in some dungeons like Sastasha, but was it really needed for the 2.0 open world zones?

It's so easy to map them as is and it added to the wonder and amazement of being a low-level adventurer discovering things

**Leowilde** · 02-21-2016 02:49 AM

I have no idea. I always enjoyed unlocking new sections of the map, as well as seeing the hidden ones and thinking "looking forward to discovering that part". I don't prefer to be handed the entire map on a platter, if that's what they think. :/

**Noxifer** · 02-21-2016 04:19 AM

The way I interpreted that bit of the patch notes (and the way I still hope it will be) is that the maps will be locked before you enter them for the first time, i.e. you can't open them up at all before you've set foot in them. So if you click on the description of a quest (that brings up the map so you can see where the objective is) but haven't been in that area, it'll tell you something like 'you don't have the map for that area yet'.

If the entire map is shown when you enter the area, how will you even KNOW where you've explored and not? O.o

Originally Posted by myahele

I can understand the dungeons since it's so easy to miss those nooks and crannies in some dungeons like Sastasha, but was it really needed for the 2.0 open world zones?

It's so easy to map them as is and it added to the wonder and amazement of being a low-level adventurer discovering things

That... makes even less sense. It'd just make it so that you either get the achievement for mapping the place for doing nothing, or it'd make it insanely difficult to GET that achievement because you wouldn't know which part of the map you're missing.

The only way I can see them showing the entire map while still making it obvious where you need to go is if they have the 'instantly revealed' map in grey, and when you go somewhere it gets coloured in with the 'normal' yellow/sepia/brown map colours.

**Thunda_Cat_SMASH** · 02-21-2016 05:11 AM

I can't say I disagree. Unlocking the maps was a huge pain for me and I'm glad I don't have to deal with it again. I still haven't fully unlocked all the HW maps because it's a pain in the ass.

**Vidrian** · 02-21-2016 05:15 AM

I love exploring maps! Even as 31 I go into the Lvl 40 parts of a map just to see it!

**Theodric** · 02-21-2016 05:26 AM

Originally Posted by Ashkendor

Honestly, I think they're just starting to do things to streamline the MSQ with an eye toward the 4.0 expansion. *shrugs*

I think some people are really overreacting to what is ultimately a very small change.

It's not really a small change, though. At least not when it's combined with the way in which Diadem was introduced. The game needs more exploration, not less. As much as I loathe to compare the game to other MMO's GW2, Wildstar and WoW all have neat things hidden throughout every zone including environmental hazards, rare enemies, treasure chests and special achievements. I would very much like to see FFXIV take a leaf out of that particular book because whilst many of the zones are very impressive visually once the quests located there have been completed they feel very empty.

**Noshpan** · 02-21-2016 05:46 AM

Originally Posted by myahele

I can understand the dungeons since it's so easy to miss those nooks and crannies in some dungeons like Sastasha, but was it really needed for the 2.0 open world zones?

It's so easy to map them as is and it added to the wonder and amazement of being a low-level adventurer discovering things

I can understand doing this for dungeons especially since I can count on one hand how many times I've encountered people who were willing to explore Sastasha (normal) in its entirety.

As to the other ARR zones, I'm kinda "meh" about it. It doesn't affect me because I already have the areas fully explored.

**king_rufus** · 02-21-2016 09:24 AM

@ TheUltimateSeph

Get a grip. This isn't "disgusting". This isn't going to set some garbage precedent for insane laziness like you're overly reactive posts suggests. Exploring maps was tedious, especially since they were rarely very interesting. They are still going to be worth looking around for questing and gathering purposes. This is a minor change meant to help get people to the content that's actually interesting and worth doing.

**Alahra** · 02-21-2016 09:52 AM

This change surprised me. I'm not honestly sure what the intent is behind it—I suppose it's just a way to make the game more friendly to newer players, since the "real" content is the 50+ experience now.

I suppose we'll see something similar for the 3.x areas once we're in 4.0.

**bass9020** · 02-21-2016 11:26 AM

Why do people play games if they think things like exploring a map is too much work? (Please don't play Black Desert then cause you will hate uncovering that map.) God forbid something doesn't have a special shiny attached to it. Explore the damn map, learn about the area finding vistas and doing quests. Just feel accomplished after getting the achievement of seeing the whole map uncovered.

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