Why 2.0 maps will be instantly opened now?

**SuperZay** · 02-20-2016 09:44 PM

When I was playing through main scenario for the first time, opening maps patch by patch was very satisfying, it gave a sense of exploration and still hidden map pieces were mysterious.
Now new players will never experience it, all maps will be fully opened for them as soon as they'll step into the area.
And reason for this nerf? Was it called? People were having a trouble with unlocking the maps?

**Pence** · 02-20-2016 09:46 PM

Who knows anymore with SE? They're convinced their player base is beyond basic.

**RLofOBFL** · 02-20-2016 09:48 PM

Wth Zay youre on this board too

Also I completely agree I loved mapping out everything, it was exciting.

**Theodric** · 02-20-2016 10:00 PM

They need to be careful not to discourage exploration altogether. Whenever I head into a new zone in pretty much any game part of the excitement for me is gradually pressing deeper and deeper into it to see what awaits me.

If they plan to ruin the surprise - especially with the lack of any real unexpected environmental hazards - then it simply makes things feel that much more clinical. At the end of the day it's a Final Fantasy game. It's part of a franchise that has almost always encouraged and rewarded exploration.

**Synrin** · 02-20-2016 10:06 PM

What? This is going to happen?

**Enkidoh** · 02-20-2016 10:15 PM

They did mention though that the exp bonus for map completion remains, but did not clarify what was meant by it - is it only a small amount of exp gained upon entering that zone for the first time, or is it all a lump sum of all the exp that would have been gained filling in all portions of the map? I think we should wait til the the full patch notes are released before making judgement on this. As far as I can figure it this was changed in order to help new players find their way through the game more quickly, as it is only ARR areas that are affected (HW areas still require you to fill in each part of the map individually).

The thing I'm curious about is how this would affect the achievements for map completion - does a new player gain that achievement upon simply entering that area? It seems a bit cheap to grant an achievement for... doing little other than zoning into an area. But ah well, as I said I think we should wait til the full patch notes are up before making final judgement on this.

Originally Posted by Synrin

What? This is going to happen?

Sadly yes, it's mentioned in the patch notes for 3.2;

Originally Posted by Final Fantasy XIV Lodestone 3.2 Patch Notes (Preliminary)

[2.0][3.0] The map and mini-map have been adjusted as follows:

[2.0] The area map will now be unlocked upon visiting the following areas for the first time:
Players will also receive the experience point reward associated with unlocking maps. If you have already visited one of the following areas but it is not yet unlocked, you must first visit any undiscovered areas to unlock the map.

Middle La Noscea / Lower La Noscea / Eastern La Noscea / Western La Noscea / Upper La Noscea / Outer La Noscea / Western Thanalan / Central Thanalan / Eastern Thanalan / Southern Thanalan / Northern Thanalan / Central Shroud / East Shroud / South Shroud / North Shroud / Coerthas Central Highlands / Mor Dhona

**Averax** · 02-20-2016 10:25 PM

It makes it easier to navigate around the first time for sure. I remember trying to make a direct line to my quest objective after entering a new zone only to be met with many obstacles and walls, only to discover that i couldn't have possibly gotten to my destination from my original course, then having to backtrack and try again.

But

How will people know where they haven't been?

**CyrilLucifer** · 02-20-2016 10:35 PM

Wow, that is kinda sad.

I, for one, love finishing my maps.

I guess the player automatically gets the mapping achievement by entering the zone? That's silly.

**Theodric** · 02-20-2016 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer

Wow, that is kinda sad.

I, for one, love finishing my maps.

I guess the player automatically gets the mapping achievement by entering the zone? That's silly.

It's a little unnerving. Surely if someone is completely new to the game they'd want to take the time to explore and gradually tackle more and more content as it opens up? If not, are those the sort of players that we want to flood into the game? If they rise in number then it's inevitable that the development of the game will erode away further aspects of exploration in the misguided cause for 'efficiency'.

**MilesSaintboroguh** · 02-21-2016 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by Pence

Who knows anymore with SE? They're convinced their player base is beyond basic.

Most are as such. People are like "I swear I know what I'm doing!", followed by them doing stupid things and then asking for nerfs.

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