Thread: 3.2 Astrologian Changes

DFing A8 (M4) for my spring all week has been like
Rez > Rez > Rez > Rez > Rez > Rez. All while maintaining Aspected Benefic/helios and spamming heals without ever hurting for MP. In fact I throw Ewers on my co healer more often than myself. The only way we eventually die is enrage timer or not enough people standing to split damage.

AST was so weak when it came out and I decided to main it. I loved it, but I don't think any job has received so many buffs, and now it feels pretty OP.

Originally Posted by AzureFlare

I dearly hope you're exaggerating, because while the LA buff is strong and arguably questionable, the difference is less than a single Ascend. If you're using Ewer on yourself with that, fair enough.

It's not. 24 seconds of refresh with 80 potency means 7 tics, so 560 potency refresh, not taking into consideration Ewers that now replenish more MP than Assize, the 150 seconds CO that adds one more tic to LA refresh and Max-Ethers that are pretty cheap now (at least NQ). I do have AST leveled but it's not my main, but it's my friend's main and he said MP is rarely a problem even on Nocturnal. Right now AST have the second best MP management on the game between healers.

Originally Posted by Fevelle

It's not. 24 seconds of refresh with 80 potency means 7 tics, so 560 potency refresh, not taking into consideration Ewers that now replenish more MP than Assize, the 150 seconds CO that adds one more tic to LA refresh and Max-Ethers that are pretty cheap now (at least NQ). I do have AST leveled but it's not my main, but it's my friend's main and he said MP is rarely a problem even on Nocturnal. Right now AST have the second best MP management on the game between healers.

Except the only differences between pre-patch and post-patch are LA and Ewer. Ewer is left out of the equation as stated, so we're comparing 9 seconds of extra refresh, which if assuming tick/3s and 707mp/tick, equates to 2121MP. That's less than a single Ascend unless you use Lightspeed too. Again, if Ewer is tossed into the mix as well, that's a whole different situation. 2121MP is a lot in any regular healing situation, and it can make/break a chain-res situation too.

Now, putting it in perspective, compared to pre-patch you get about 90% of an Ascend's cost every 2 minutes as wiggle room, which is completely open to personal interpretation afterwards, especially since it is scenario-dependent. Then again, it may just be my definitions of chain-res and mana-hurting being different, because yay semantics. It just appeared very blown out of proportions to me in the initial message with the little information that was actually given, since it also matters if you play conservative and stack your mana for that 'oh crud' moment (at which yes, it could give you a whole 2-3 Ascends in difference), whether the deaths are spaced out, whether you play offensive and burn all your extra MP away as it comes, etc etc.

I'm sorry, I'm not sure why that was taken the way it was, certain things don't translate well into text I guess. The point I was trying to make is that I can be completely wreckless, overhealing and dishing out an unreasonable amount of rezzes in a single fight while continuing to function with a very comfortable amount of MP remaining. I've also found restoring my MP after death to be relatively quick and easy nowadays

Originally Posted by TheWaywardWind

The Bad:

- Gravity is still obtained only at level 52. It should be switched with Combust II.

I think Combust II was pre-50 was because both WHM and SCH has at least 2 DoTs, as definitely had 2 DoTs of the same "Series" by 50. While I agree the timing of how gravity is learned is an issue, I think it would bring another issue. While WHM and SCH can have decent DPS for both AoE and Single-Targets, AST has to "choose" between the two unless Combust II suddenly becomes an AoE spell.

On the other hand there were some complaints about homogenization regarding Healers, so I think some people might be glad that AST at least can't outshine the other 2 in 2.0 synched content.