Quote Originally Posted by Kerrigen View Post
Yeah, when I started learning this as AST I was often blinking orange to red on the enmity list by the time Thordan came back after Ultimate End. It doesn't matter much because he hits like a wet noodle and you can easily take a couple of hits if the MT is slow with provoke, but on a fight like progresion T9 back then... It would have been a wipe.

It just doesn't mesh very well with some of the encounter design so something had to be done, really.
If he cleaved right after coming back... lmao enjoy your AST induced genocide. It still sucks for positionals and the like, though. The first time it happened it caught everyone by surprise and no one was sure what exactly was happening XD I thought at first the OT had finally pulled hate, but then we saw our AST comfortably getting slapped in the face like "ARE YOU PROVOKING NOW?" it all made sense. Tbh that was the moment I realized ASTs really did need those enmity changes Yoshi P had been talking about. I've run the fight with tons of different WHMs and never had that problem before unless the WHM loved to overheal with Medica II and didn't know what Shroud was.