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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexanderThorolund View Post
    I don't understand the buff to LA. Where has the request for this buff come from exactly? And like others I've never seen C.O as worth saving to extend LA.
    And the reduced aggro i don't really understand either.

    In my opinion there were more important things to adjust.That is just my 2 cents anyway.
    The same people who save spear to reduce cooldown LA probably! (don't get it).
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    I feel like they made that adjustment to LA for enmity reasons (higher up time for quelling effect).

    If that's the case I hope they adjust the potency value of LA to have a similar MP restoration value as the previous 15s version. I don't feel ASTs had much MP issues to begin with and this level of MP restoration feels a bit much.
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    If you don't understand the enmity changes, you probably never did Savage as (or with) an AST.

    A while back AST had the potency of their heals buffed to match WHMs, meaning their aggro gen (via heals) also went up. However, WHM has an aggro dump (Shroud) whilst AST doesn't (LA's version isn't the same), so that needed to be addressed. A Quelling Strikes-type ability encoded into their Sects is a nice way to address it without the risk of making AST more of a WHM clone.
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  4. #14
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    How is the MP restoration too much? Jesus.
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    If you don't understand the enmity changes, you probably never did Savage as (or with) an AST.
    Never had problem on a1/2/3 S and Thordan extrem. So you can keep your argument.

    The enmity change is welcome.

    This would vary from tank to tank. Tanks pushing the limits of their damage output would try and stay out of their tank stance as much as possible. As long they're always on the top of the enmity list, they can afford staying out of tank stance and thus contribute more damage. In contrast, tanks staying in their respective tank stance would build up a greater enmity ceiling, but contribute less damage.
    It depend also if you are over healing or not and if you are using correctly your Aether at the right time. So you can have tanks pushing limits of their damage and get no problem. In contrast, some tanks staying in their respective tank stance and lose agro.
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    Last edited by NamoNanamo; 02-20-2016 at 12:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    I feel like they made that adjustment to LA for enmity reasons (higher up time for quelling effect).

    If that's the case I hope they adjust the potency value of LA to have a similar MP restoration value as the previous 15s version. I don't feel ASTs had much MP issues to begin with and this level of MP restoration feels a bit much.
    Currently, is AST mp sustain while DPSing similar to that of a scholar?
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by NamoNanamo View Post
    Never had problem on a1/2/3 S and Thordan extrem.
    This would vary from tank to tank. Tanks pushing the limits of their damage output would try and stay out of their tank stance as much as possible. As long they're always on the top of the enmity list, they can afford staying out of tank stance and thus contribute more damage. In contrast, tanks staying in their respective tank stance would build up a greater enmity ceiling, but contribute less damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragology View Post
    Currently, is AST mp sustain while DPSing similar to that of a scholar?
    It's not, but SCH is insane on the MP restoration front anyway.

    If you want to ask if AST can sustain MP while DPSing like a WHM, probably it can (especially now)
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    Quote Originally Posted by NamoNanamo View Post
    Never had problem on a1/2/3 S and Thordan extrem.
    That's good for you, but doesn't really mean anything. Evidently it was an issue on the whole otherwise the devs wouldn't have felt they needed to address it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FeliAiko View Post
    That's good for you, but doesn't really mean anything. Evidently it was an issue on the whole otherwise the devs wouldn't have felt they needed to address it.
    I'm sure they did the change for a good reason.
    But maybe for the next savage ? I don't care and it's always welcome.
    That's not the point anw. I wast just pointing that if someone doesn't agree/understand with you doesn't mean he didn't do Savage. Unless you got some scientist fact that prove your point, you don't need to say that.
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    Last edited by NamoNanamo; 02-20-2016 at 12:01 AM.

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