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    Kyan Ashton
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 50

    3.2 Astrologian Changes

    Diurnal Sect - Now reduces enmity generation.
    Nocturnal Sect - Now reduces enmity generation.
    Aspected Benefic - The effect of Nocturnal Field will be halved in PvP areas.
    Luminiferous Aether - Duration has been increased from 15 seconds to 24 seconds.
    Shuffle - It is no longer possible to draw the same card twice consecutively. Shuffle has been renamed Redraw.
    The Ewer - Potency when used on a single target or on all party members has been increased.
    The Spire - Potency when used on a single target or on all party members has been increased.

    I'm probably the most surprised by L.A. That means that ASTs can 1. Be more liberal with C.O. usage with other buffs, or 2. Get INSANE MP recovery, with almost double Shroud of Saints MP recovery. I'm going more for 1. since a lot of ASTs were saving C.O. to extend L.A. most of the time, and can now use it more freely.

    Otherwise, I love all of these changes. Enmity issues? Check. Mana issues? Check. Shuffle issues? Big effing check.

    ...Where's my lvl 50 Gravity tho, SE?

    (And let's not even start on the cestpool of 'needs reworking' called Nocturnal Sect.)
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    Last edited by tjw; 02-19-2016 at 10:18 PM.

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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Which also means that having ewer + LA and using CO give you more mana that you can spend XD

    And i'm confused by the enmity reduction by diurnal and nocturnal...
    The more you cast the less you aggro ?!
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    I think it means that the effect of Diurnal/Nocturnal makes you gain less enmity per action. I.E. Perma quelling strikes, but obviously not as extreme an effect.

    And yea, now we get to see who the good ASTs are by CO usage. If you're hoarding it to extend L.A. now...I'm expecting better usage with Lightspeed/Synastry or even extending card buffs/regens.
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    Last edited by tjw; 02-19-2016 at 10:21 PM.

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    Remyus Eridanius
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    Mateus
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    The buff to LA is VERY nice since I almost always paired it up with CO. I'll be more inclined/comfortable using CO with Lightspeed now.
    They clearly went straight for MP/Enmity for AST this patch. Increasing LA and Ewer will solve whatever MP problems people were having with AST before.

    Also finally no more drawing the same card twice in a row after redrawing! My one complaint I had with the job at last taken care of.
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    Adore Mi
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    Very nice changes. I was surprised by the LA change as well, but that's definitely an awesome answer to AST being the only healer with no % based MP recovery tool.
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    Ebi Frye
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    Fisher Lv 80
    That's okay I guess. I wasn't expecting a Luminiferous Aether buff at all, this is a pleasant surprise. I'm also surprised they didn't touch anything Nocturnal aside from the PvP nerf, I'm still not sure they really get how strong SCH is.

    Inbefore people start complaining that they constantly Draw Spire -> Spear or spire -> Ewer and we're back to square one.
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    Zaj Quilos
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    If only they buffed Spear it would be perfect I never saved CO to increase LA.
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    Agnes Hesperides
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    Shiva
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    This is so great. The L.A. change is insane and i'm pretty sure we now are on par if not slightly above White Mage for MP recovery. The enmity changes seem very good, although i never had much problems with enmity (probably because i'm usually with very good tanks). I can't play PVP (thanks to the amazing 30+ wait minutes) so it doesn't bother me much. And we all know how great the Shuffle change is. I'm finally starting to feel proud to have AST as my main.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AgnesTheStargazer View Post
    The enmity changes seem very good, although i never had much problems with enmity (probably because i'm usually with very good tanks).
    This was only a problem in some endgame fights where the boss becomes untargettable for a very long time while you keep piling up on enmity. Enmity shouldn't be a concern at all during the levelling process.
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    Last edited by Kerrigen; 02-19-2016 at 11:12 PM.

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    Eros Crux
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    I don't understand the buff to LA. Where has the request for this buff come from exactly? And like others I've never seen C.O as worth saving to extend LA.
    And the reduced aggro i don't really understand either.

    In my opinion there were more important things to adjust.That is just my 2 cents anyway.
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