Thread: 3.2 Astrologian Changes

Not saying ast is bad but more card diversity would make the job shine more

I only listed the most commen ways ast use there cards but i prefure more diversity when using X card on X job without it being bad.... *cough mnk +arrow*

While a further emphasis on the Cards subsystem would be nice, at least potentially getting a different unwanted Card is better than getting the same unwanted Card back-to-back.

Originally Posted by Ghishlain

Didn't feel threatened at all. It's a nice change but one that I felt was unnecessary in terms of MP management. Like I said earlier, if it was for enmity management, I could see why they did it.

Many people keep bringing up Assize without realizing that the vast majority of the AST healing toolkit costs 10% less MP to use compared to their WHM counterpart. It's a small nuance that gets lost in the discussion when comparing MP tools. Consider it an MP passive directly on the AST healing kit.

Ehhhh, they also have lower GCDs thanks to their 5% Haste buff in diurnal. It's a detriment in the long run, for MP. More globals, more MP spent, more MP spent faster. Instant procs aren't making that Benefic II free, and I'm sure Lightspeed just wreaks havoc.

There are lots of small nuances. It makes my head spin. *crawls up the stairs backwards*

Pros: MP management solutions, allowing better freedom of Celestial Opposition use. Shuffle change, while too long in coming, is nevertheless welcome now that it's here. I never personally had issues with enmity, but my experience in areas where that might be an issue are limited. Seems like a common complaint among raiding ASTs so it's good that it was addressed.

Cons: Devs still ignoring various elephants in the room, such as "dud" cards and the relative inability to do anything about them, as well as the relative uselessness of Nocturnal Sect. I get that solving these issues are a bit more "long-term" than mana and aggro quirks, but sometimes it feels like the devs are burying their heads in the sand.

Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo

Devs still ignoring various elephants in the room, such as "dud" cards and the relative inability to do anything about them

Well, what do you consider dud cards?

I find uses for all of the cards. The only one that really ever annoyed me getting it over and over was Spire. You can only RR it so many times. Now, if we get Spire you can either RR or ensure that you don't get it again by re-drawing.

Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine

Well, what do you consider dud cards?

I would say The Spear since it doesn't work on abilities already on CD and too a less degree Ewer and Spire if you are doing content where you don't really need refilling. I draw those three cards and think of them as RR fodder.

Nope spear is pretty good for a bard or mech even if you miss the higher cd abilities or buffs they have many little off gcd ones that the spear can reduce. Though I would not pick using it on one if you are planing to go for an extended buff card on someone.