3.2 Patch Notes

**Whiteroom** · 02-21-2016 02:28 AM

Originally Posted by DGladius

It's everyone's job when grouping up in any content to see how to maximize their role in clearing the content. That is to use whatever skills your class has as best as possible to complete the duty. Some aren't needed in easier content but they are still helpful in doing so. If people don't put in effort, it will just slow the party down which is commonly seen in people playing dps who play as if they don't care as an example.

^This, if you join a team, you should contribute and help that team.

**Kaoru_Nagisa** · 02-21-2016 02:29 AM

Originally Posted by DGladius

It's everyone's job when grouping up in any content to see how to maximize their role in clearing the content. That is to use whatever skills your class has as best as possible to complete the duty. Some aren't needed in easier content but they are still helpful in doing so. If people don't put in effort, it will just slow the party down which is commonly seen in people playing dps who play as if they don't care as an example.

It's everyone's job to simply play their role and clear the content. There is no min/maxing unless it's hardcore stuff, all that maximizing a role does is shave off some time in the content. And frankly so long as everyone is performing their job properly, I see no point in forcing people to do more than they can/want to. And when I say properly, I mean dps doing damage, tanks keeping aggro, and healers making sure no one drops on the floor - and everyone actually performing the mechanics, which includes dodging AoEs.

Beyond that, it's up to the individual how well they decide to expand on their base role and duties. If that means for a healer to dps a bit between heals, go for it. But it isn't required and the attitude everyone has now with demanding healers play a dps role when that isn't their job description is ridiculous.

**Frederick22** · 02-21-2016 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by Frederick22

So.... Unidentified ore and seeds will still cost 680 esoteric now ?
ugh.. im dissapointed

Originally Posted by UnstablePersonality

Because Esoterics drop as much as law did ..so there isn't a reason to change it.

Originally Posted by UnstablePersonality

Originally Posted by Frederick22

Sorry but you seem confuse here. I'm talking about the prices of the special items you can buy at Rowena's with tomestones

Why are you talking about roulettes? What it has to do with this anyway?

Because I was originally talking about how much esoterics the roulette themselves will give before you posted your reply to what I said too you on top of what the conversion will give you (roulettes giving the same amount of eso as they did law) hence why they didn't lower it.

First of all you did not start with this conversation, I did. I just said how much dissapointed I was beacuse it seems that all prices at rowena's that you could buy using law tomestones will not change at all. This was different back on the 2.xx series.

But it seems now you started talking about duty roulettes that has no relation what so ever with the items you can get using tomestones. One thing is changing the roulettes based on the tomestones and nother thing is the items you can get with them.

Estoterics will always be more valuable as Law, and this will keep going with every new tomesone. On 6 weeks a new one will show up, Lore will be uncapped and Esoterics will be gone. One item showed up on an old tomesone changes to the new ones that is more valuable, its prices has to be reduces. For example will you tell me Doman gear has the same value as the Esoteric one? No

But it seems that they didnt do this for the first time, at least only with the items you need or the anima. But also ssems a bit logical, if there bones/shells 's price was not going to change why yes then the ores/seeds? yup.

**Lexia** · 02-21-2016 02:46 AM

Originally Posted by DGladius

If people don't put in effort, it will just slow the party down which is commonly seen in people playing dps who play as if they don't care as an example.

If a healer not dpsing is going to slow down the group that much then there is more wrong with the group as a whole then the just the healer not dpsing.

**Kaurie** · 02-21-2016 02:50 AM

Originally Posted by Lexia

If a healer not dpsing is going to slow down the group that much then there is more wrong with the group as a whole then the just the healer not dpsing.

That is faulty logic. A healer not DPSing will slow down a group, whether there are other problems or not.

**Arkenne** · 02-21-2016 02:52 AM

Originally Posted by Kaurie

That is faulty logic. A healer not DPSing will slow down a group, whether there are other problems or not.

I think thats looking at a glass for being half empty...

A Healer that DPSs speeds the group progress.
A Healer that doesn't DPS doesn't speed, neither slow downs the group progress.
A Healer that fails to heal and causes either a wipe or partial wipe slows down the group progress.

**Darkstride** · 02-21-2016 02:55 AM

Originally Posted by Arkenne

I think thats looking at a glass for being half empty...

A Healer that DPSs speeds the group progress.
A Healer that doesn't DPS doesn't speed, neither slow downs the group progress.
A Healer that fails to heal and causes either a wipe or partial wipe slows down the group progress.

And a healer that has spare time to jump around while the rest of the party fights is just plain annoying lol.

**Kaurie** · 02-21-2016 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by Arkenne

I think thats looking at a glass for being half empty...

A Healer that DPSs speeds the group progress.
A Healer that doesn't DPS doesn't speed, neither slow downs the group progress.
A Healer that fails to heal and causes either a wipe or partial wipe slows down the group progress.

Relative to DPSing, it slows down the run. Relative to not DPSing, DPS speeds up the run. It has nothing to do with pessimism and optimism, it has to do with relative to the topic. We were discussing comparative values to DPSing in a run. In this sense, not DPSing slows down the run.

A healer that sucks wasn't really part of the discussion.

**Lexia** · 02-21-2016 03:00 AM

Originally Posted by Kaurie

That is faulty logic. A healer not DPSing will slow down a group, whether there are other problems or not.

Yea cause that all people care about is speed speed speed.

**Arkenne** · 02-21-2016 03:02 AM

Originally Posted by Darkstride

And a healer that has spare time to jump around while the rest of the party fights is just plain annoying lol.

Well, yea, I can't deny that.

Originally Posted by Kaurie

Relative to DPSing, it slows down the run. Relative to not DPSing, DPS speeds up the run. It has nothing to do with pessimism and optimism, it has to do with relative to the topic. We were discussing comparative values to DPSing in a run. In this sense, not DPSing slows down the run.

A healer that sucks wasn't really part of the discussion.

Theeeeen I have to read from a bit behind...

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