Thread: 3.2 Patch Notes

Originally Posted by Lexia

If a healer not dpsing is going to slow down the group that much then there is more wrong with the group as a whole then the just the healer not dpsing.

That is faulty logic. A healer not DPSing will slow down a group, whether there are other problems or not.

Originally Posted by Kaurie

That is faulty logic. A healer not DPSing will slow down a group, whether there are other problems or not.

I think thats looking at a glass for being half empty...

A Healer that DPSs speeds the group progress.
A Healer that doesn't DPS doesn't speed, neither slow downs the group progress.
A Healer that fails to heal and causes either a wipe or partial wipe slows down the group progress.

Originally Posted by Arkenne

I think thats looking at a glass for being half empty...

A Healer that DPSs speeds the group progress.
A Healer that doesn't DPS doesn't speed, neither slow downs the group progress.
A Healer that fails to heal and causes either a wipe or partial wipe slows down the group progress.

Relative to DPSing, it slows down the run. Relative to not DPSing, DPS speeds up the run. It has nothing to do with pessimism and optimism, it has to do with relative to the topic. We were discussing comparative values to DPSing in a run. In this sense, not DPSing slows down the run.

A healer that sucks wasn't really part of the discussion.

Originally Posted by Darkstride

And a healer that has spare time to jump around while the rest of the party fights is just plain annoying lol.

Well, yea, I can't deny that.

Originally Posted by Kaurie

Relative to DPSing, it slows down the run. Relative to not DPSing, DPS speeds up the run. It has nothing to do with pessimism and optimism, it has to do with relative to the topic. We were discussing comparative values to DPSing in a run. In this sense, not DPSing slows down the run.

A healer that sucks wasn't really part of the discussion.

Theeeeen I have to read from a bit behind...

Originally Posted by Kaurie

That is faulty logic. A healer not DPSing will slow down a group, whether there are other problems or not.

Yea cause that all people care about is speed speed speed.

Originally Posted by Lexia

Yea cause that all people care about is speed speed speed.

This has nothing to do with your statement. You said, that if a run is going slower by a healer not DPSing (relative to a healer DPSing) there is something wrong. That makes 0 sense, of course a healer DPSing will speed things up.

A healer can comfortably contribute to 15% of the damage of a run (often more, sometimes less, it all relates to the skill of the healer, class of the healer and skill/class of the others present). In this sense, do you find that 15% is insignificant in other aspects of your life? Such as, someone driving 15% slower than the speed limit on the highway? Perhaps a flight that took 15% longer to reach its destination. Maybe a 15% increase on your pay cheque? IMO these are all pretty significant, 15% is nothing to scoff at.

If you do want to get into a conversation about skill, well, I don't really care. I am going to play healer, so I won't be queued with you healing and not DPSing. If you choose to aspire for mediocrity then that is your business.

Originally Posted by Kaurie

This has nothing to do with your statement. You said, that if a run is going slower by a healer not DPSing (relative to a healer DPSing) there is something wrong. That makes 0 sense, of course a healer DPSing will speed things up.

A healer can comfortably contribute to 15% of the damage of a run (often more, sometimes less, it all relates to the skill of the healer, class of the healer and skill/class of the others present). In this sense, do you find that 15% is insignificant in other aspects of your life? Such as, someone driving 15% slower than the speed limit on the highway? Perhaps a flight that took 15% longer to reach its destination. Maybe a 15% increase on your pay cheque? IMO these are all pretty significant, 15% is nothing to scoff at.

If you do want to get into a conversation about skill, well, I don't really care. I am going to play healer, so I won't be queued with you healing and not DPSing. If you choose to aspire for mediocrity then that is your business.

Not like this game going to get a person any where in life anyways.

Originally Posted by Whiteroom

How does that apply to the point she made, aside from coming close to the "Tic Tac Toe" img?

Cause they trying to apply RL instances to in game ones but I will step away from this topic as it not what the thread is about.

Originally Posted by Lexia

Cause they trying to apply RL instances to in game ones but I will step away from this topic as it not what the thread is about.

They were talking about the difference 15% can make and gave different examples to support it. Saving 15% of time by driving appropriately is essentially the same as clearing content 15% faster. You are a rl person playing this game aren't you? And the rest of the people in your team are real people, not bots. She was not in any way saying the game will progress your life in the way a 15% pay raise would. But it seems you decided to ignore that to go the tic tac toe route.


But as far as the patch notes go:

Yay glamour! Yay Levi staff!