Thread: 3.2 Patch Notes

Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa

even if we're in WP and pop our cooldowns to make up for it. Bard was never meant to be a high damage class and idk why people don't realize that.

Because you can deal high damage with it..?

Originally Posted by jssanderson747

Because you can deal high damage with it..?

We deal better damage now with WP + cooldowns, but I'm just saying that if a healer needs MP super badly, I'm prioritizing Mage's Ballad over dps output because if the healer goes down too much on MP, that's a great scenario for a wipe.

What boggles me is when the healer themselves, with only 500 mp left, are telling me to turn off Ballad because it's cutting my dps. Friend, I know that - I don't care, I'd rather my dps go to crap for a few seconds than have the tank die because you can't even get off a heal due to no MP.

Like I'm sorry, but my job is a hybrid support. I'm gonna support when it's needed, and I've played the class for 2 years so I feel like I can fairly well judge when I need to drop into a song and deal with a little bit of dps cut.

Originally Posted by Warlyx

....u arent a hybrid , because HYBRIDS dont exist in FFXIV

If I'm not meant to be a hybrid support, then they shouldn't have given my class support skills that regen TP, MP, lower MDEF of mobs, and soon we're getting a change to our skill which lets us use a bard Esuna.

Sorry, but if I have those tools, I'm going to use them because they are part of my class and using them is how to properly play it. You can keep being one of those bards who refuse to sing when people are shouting in party or raid for a song, but meanwhile I'm going to be actually contributing with my support skills when needed. Otherwise I shouldn't have had them on my class.

Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa

If I'm not meant to be a hybrid support, then they shouldn't have given my class support skills that regen TP, MP, lower MDEF of mobs, and soon we're getting a change to our skill which lets us use a bard Esuna.

Sorry, but if I have those tools, I'm going to use them because they are part of my class and using them is how to properly play it. You can keep being one of those bards who refuse to sing when people are shouting in party or raid for a song, but meanwhile I'm going to be actually contributing with my support skills when needed. Otherwise I shouldn't have had them on my class.

You are the goddamn best bard ever and I love you.

Originally Posted by Warlyx

no1 is saying otherwise , but using MP song or TP song when pulling when every1 is at max mp/tp ...just because is part your job....makes no sense...

the BRD skills outside of FOE (+BV) are used to regen resources...so using songs when arent needes is detrimental to your MAIN ROLE , DPS.

.... Where on earth did you even see me say I use TP/MP song when no one needs it.

Like did you just insert words into something I said? Because friend I never said I always have songs up even if they aren't needed. I use songs when they are, because that's why I have those skills.

Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa

Sorry, but if I have those tools, I'm going to use them because they are part of my class and using them is how to properly play it. You can keep being one of those bards who refuse to sing when people are shouting in party or raid for a song, but meanwhile I'm going to be actually contributing with my support skills when needed. Otherwise I shouldn't have had them on my class.

If the healer asked to turn it off than that means the healer doesn't need it. Therefore it would be better to turn it off to deal more damage and kills things faster. If the healer messes up that's on the healer. It has nothing to do with other bards refusing to sing when it is actually needed. There are no hybrids, every other dps has support skills that they can utilize when its necessary. As DPS you're there to have the mindset of finding out what is the most effective way to put out the most damage you can do.

Originally Posted by DGladius

If the healer asked to turn it off than that means the healer doesn't need it. Therefore it would be better to turn it off to deal more damage and kills things faster. If the healer messes up that's on the healer. It has nothing to do with other bards refusing to sing when it is actually needed. There are no hybrids, every other dps has support skills that they can utilize when its necessary. As DPS you're there to have the mindset of finding out what is the most effective way to put out the most damage you can do.

Or it means the healer is too focused on dpsing to worry about wiping (seen this more times than I care for). As a DPS who has to wait in queue for over 30 minutes sometimes, I care whether we wipe or not. If playing a song for what amounts to a single minute most of the time, can prevent a wipe, then I will do so and cover the hit to my damage as best I can until I can turn it off.

I know how best to play my own class, and I will worry about how best to contribute with my own class's skills, whether that be maximizing my dps or using my supportive skills that were put on my class by the developers.

Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa

Or it means the healer is too focused on dpsing to worry about wiping (seen this more times than I care for). As a DPS who has to wait in queue for over 30 minutes sometimes, I care whether we wipe or not. If playing a song for what amounts to a single minute most of the time, can prevent a wipe, then I will do so and cover the hit to my damage as best I can until I can turn it off.

I know how best to play my own class, and I will worry about how best to contribute with my own class's skills, whether that be maximizing my dps or using my supportive skills that were put on my class by the developers.

The thing is, a healer also doesn't want to wipe. If they said that, they're likely OK. Most of us have played more than one class and have a good idea how it all works.

Beyond that, you mention ""healer is too focused on dpsing to worry about wiping (seen this more times than I care for)" and then mention "I know how best to play my own class". Either you should accept that people are able to properly judge other members of the party (you judging healers for focusing too much DPS) or accept that they know how to play best their class using the skills that was given them by the developers.

Playing Ballad could save a wipe, but it could also cause a wipe.