New Prelim Tank updates

[Reynhart]

Problem is, WAR seems to be in a safe spot, while PLD seems to compete against DRK on top of Yoshi saying that Midas will be more physical focused. As a result, there is a negative scenario considered where PLD and DRK might swap places. :/

They could make content balance between physical and magical. Either by having one mob switching the type of tankbusters (Like in T13), or several mob with only one type of damage each.

For example (outside of raid), maybe Calcas will hit physically, Brinas will hit magically, and Calcabrina will use damage tied to the majority of dolls alive at the merge. So, if you have a DRK, you'll want to focus on Calcas first so that Calcabrina will be mainly magical.

[Ironos]

Completely happy with these changes, though it does seem like RoH is even more useless than before (unless physical damage winds up being major in Midas Savage).

Kind of minor, but I was really expecting Spirits Within to have the weird HP scaling taken off, but oh well.
That ShO change is arguably what makes me the most excited, hands down.

[Mike555]

Keeping 2 out of the 3 tanks deliberately deficient when dealing with physical/magical damage while the third one is just as good at dealing with either is pretty crappy.
I had hoped that they could maybe finally balance all 3 tanks somewhat equally without nerfing WAR but seems that it's just a pipedream. The tanks will never be balanced unless SE nerfs WAR so they're no longer untouchable and then they can try and come up with a metagame where one tank isnt always left out

[Syzygian]

My main disappointment with this is now PLD functions fine as MT or OT utility-wise, whereas DRK still brings next-to-nothing as an OT, which is a big deal no matter how people try and play it down.

[Rei_Fails]

My main disappointment with this is now PLD functions fine as MT or OT utility-wise, whereas DRK still brings next-to-nothing as an OT, which is a big deal no matter how people try and play it down.

It's not that bad, it does roughly the same DPS as WAR (if slashing is supplied) and supplies Delirium with no MNK available, though its utility is definitely behind PLD somewhat due to Clemency/Veil. Overall quite pleased with changes.

[Reynhart]

It's not that bad, it does roughly the same DPS as WAR (if slashing is supplied) and supplies Delirium with no MNK available, though its utility is definitely behind PLD somewhat due to Clemency/Veil. Overall quite pleased with changes.

I think the idea is that DRK offers nothing specifically as an OT.
Though, to be honest, the only thing PLD brings "as an OT" is Cover.

[Rei_Fails]

I think the idea is that DRK offers nothing specifically as an OT.
Though, to be honest, the only thing PLD brings "as an OT" is Cover.

Except it does, Delirium, the same thing a MNK is brought for. Paladin though does offer more, Divine Veil for large AoE, Clemency, Cover, and Halone. DRK is definitely behind, but it's not in a horrible spot as an OT. Shame Reprisal is locked behind parry procs.

[Reynhart]

Except it does, Delirium, the same thing a MNK is brought for. Paladin though does offer more, Divine Veil for large AoE, Clemency, Cover, and Halone. DRK is definitely behind, but it's not in a horrible spot as an OT. Shame Reprisal is locked behind parry procs.

Delirium is used as MT.
Divine Veil, Clemency and Halone too.

As OT, PLD and DRK both lose some skills, but DRK "gains" nothing in return.

If you look at WAR it can still use Raw Intuition to gain some benefit and, by avoiding its enmity combo, can apply both Storm's Path and Storm's Eye.

[Iagainsti]

Am I the only person disappointed that Warrior did not get a thundercloud proc trait for Fracture ;D

Jk, glad to see some pally love, not pleased that DRK only received a tp cost reduction; might have to consider swapping tank buddies for progression here on out.

[Shurrikhan]

Am I the only person disappointed that Warrior did not get a thundercloud proc trait for Fracture ;D

Jk, glad to see some pally love, not pleased that DRK only received a tp cost reduction; might have to consider swapping tank buddies for progression here on out.

Damn, now that I imagine that... it'd be really awesome on a Berserker/Reaver, if not on a Warrior itself... But that aside,

What were you looking for for DRK? I too don't really think the TP adjustments did a damn thing, but what then would have?