Tank nerf coming?

[Kaiser-Ace]

because tank players were exploiting the game and the developers had no intention to have them play like that.

How are tanks exploiting the game?

They're not, Eva's just full of [Kupo].

They were playing an alternative playstyle that the devs were not (nor should have to) be able to properly Ballence. The best (and ironically easyest) answer is to make that playstyle no longer a viable strategy.

I personally just wish they did this earlier before STR tanking became so popular. Though, to be fair, if it didn't become popular it wouldn't need addressing anyway. Hindsight is 20/20 after all.

[Ashkendor]

because tank players were exploiting the game and the developers had no intention to have them play like that.

I think 'exploiting the game' is just a little hyperbolic here. >_>

Honestly, this change benefits us greatly. We no longer have to make pentamelds or fight with melee DPS for accessories (or worse yet, save up the tokens for them week after week after week) while entire sets of perfectly good tank accessories hit the floor.

[ChocoFeru]

Tanks had it too easy on this patch. All they had to do is switch everything into STR, giving all the weight to the healers.

[Alberel]

I really don't get this "tank should not DPS" mentality. "Holding hate" is not a thing in FFXIV. You get it, it's yours. What makes every job interesting is how to max DPS while doing your job. What else is there, popping CDs on scripted busters...?

It also amazes me how all these bards and machinists got out-DPSed by tanks. An equally geared and skilled DPS would never have lost the DPS race against any tank. There is nothing wrong with tanks doing better DPS than lower geared or lower skilled DPS.

Well then by that logic tanks will be even more interesting to you after the patch as it'll take that much more effort to pump out damage comparable to pre-nerf. Players that like maximising tank potential aren't getting their job dumbed down. The complexity is still there. The jobs have just been toned down because they were quite simply capable of doing TOO much damage for a non-damage role.

This was also necessary to solve the issue with PLDs being undesirable. With tank damage being less of a thing it will hopefully no longer be a no-brainer to just always take a WAR over a PLD.

[SaitoHikari]

because tank players were exploiting the game and the developers had no intention to have them play like that.

Less 'Tank players' and more 'Warrior players'. I imagine the STR tank build was always a possible thing throughout the history of this game, but it was what Warrior turned into in Heavensward that really shoved it into the light.

Say what you will, but the whole 'Warrior is a DPS class' thing had turned into something so ridiculous that I've noticed people bringing that crap into Duty Finder. 8-man trials where Warriors would outright DEMAND tanks of other classes to take the main tank position so the warrior could instead DPS, or they would immediately leave the group. Even if it was the other tank's first time there. There are even semi-frequent posts of Paladins in the Duty Finder Tales thread getting vote kicked from roulettes because 'EWW LOW DPS'.

On top of that, in Sarg hunts at least, almost everyone known for soloing hunts/pulling hunt mobs as soon as they arrive does so as a Warrior, because it's far and away the easiest and fastest class to solo as.

Then there's the people that get insanely judgmental when you're not using the optimal STR accessory setup, regardless of class. It'd definitely confuse the hell out of new players that chose to play as a tank first - the trial by community suddenly reaches toxic levels once they cap.

[Evangela]

How is it not an exploiting? STR WARs in Frontline still have enough Vit/HP/Defense to survive and also have high STR to kill people. They are a tank and a killer at the same time.

[Mycow8me]

All i know is that if i cant get close to the numbers i was getting on my war anymore... there will probably be one less war cause i enjoyed being a dps tank. I think the fuss over tanks doing damage is ridiculous. Even end game ffxi had tanks doing decent damage. OT is only useful during a small portion of fights without decent dps.

[SpookyGhost]

Tanks had it too easy on this patch. All they had to do is switch everything into STR, giving all the weight to the healers.

Healers had it easy as well, it was largely the damage intake being incredibly low (around FCoB levels) that made everyone able to focus so highly on DPS. A4S w/ Nisi is the only real stopping gate for that.

[Ironos]

All i know is that if i cant get close to the numbers i was getting on my war anymore... there will probably be one less war cause i enjoyed being a dps tank. I think the fuss over tanks doing damage is ridiculous. Even end game ffxi had tanks doing decent damage. OT is only useful during a small portion of fights without decent dps.

Yes, the fuss about tank damage is ridiculous. Including tanks threatening to quit tanking if their damage gets nerfed.

[Mycow8me]

I can see how saying ill probably end up quiting war comes off as a threat. Even if it was a threat, no one cares. Was not my intention. I enjoyed war for its OT dps potential and that could be lost. Why would i keep playing it otherwise. Dont try to turn me into the bad guy here.