Tank nerf coming?

[Tanathya]

I sort of disagree with this. No matter how good the tank may be, they're still going to be 'squishier' than a tank staying in their tank stance. I don't completely agree with Choco either but in certain situations it's a flat out hinderance having your tanks taking more damage.

A2S being a great example; when you're making your Scholar have to heal you because you decided to go DPS stance, you're bringing this false sense of justification on adding DPS. In reality all you did was add a bit of DPS for yourself while rendering the Scholar unable to apply DoTs and contribute 1000+ DPS.

I acknowledge that it was necessary for tanks to go full STR accs and play around with DPS stances to make DPS checks, but they did it to the extent that it became the healer's responsibility to cover for their mistakes. Along with holding aggro, people often forget damage mitigation should be a priority before DPS for tanks too. I can't count the amount of times I've had to turn off cleric because a tank wants to add to their numbers in a more selfish manner than actually wanting the most DPS output for the group.

Speak for yourself. I can heal myself for much more in a large pull via Abyssal Drain with full STR and proper use of CD's. I'm not gonna get hit for less by wearing more VIT, and that's beating a dead horse. A bad tank is a bad tank, no matter the gear, but currently, a good tank is better off wearing STR than VIT.

[DGladius]

No good DPS with comparable gear would lose to tank's dps only bad DPS do. In raids, when you have a tank that is off-tanking they are generally acting as a DPS until they need to tank something, which is where they won't be in tank stance to dish out close to dps numbers as OT.

It also did say that: Although it won’t be much lower and it will be compensated with the new gear. So, it doesn't seem like it will be a big drop. It's likely not gonna change how really good tanks will still out dps the average dps you see in duty finder or the general NA DPS.

[Cherie]

In the recent dengeki interview I think it was (and there was a famitsu one too so I don't remember, yoshi's been busy), it was seemed to say that overall, vitality isnt going to give as large dps performance as strength does now.

So yes nerf it is...yup

Not a big one though, if the translations are correct.

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201602/15099357.html (https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/12...u-Translation?)
http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/221/1221731/ (um...google translate I guess....)

I'm not really sure where the feeling is coming from that I see: "Tanks need to carry all the bad players!" Aren't "bad players" equally divided out to all of the various roles? I'm not aware of tanks being made of magic in such that they just in general play better than the rest or something. Maybe tanks are just somewhat above suspicion? I know in the past, not many wanted to play tank, so the party didn't dare talk back to them or criticize them. Is that really still the case? I know people sometimes still decide to play tank because they still think that is the case though.... "Oh, I got in trouble a lot when i dpsed.... I know! I'll be a tank, they will have to worship me!" :/

[Zeonx]

I am glad the switch is coming although I often think how this will turn out for the people who don't like this.

Then they decide to stop tanking which will hinder duty finder.

I know some will decide to just go DPS after this maybe who knows maybe they won't.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I'm glad people mentioned that it was noted that there might be a slight decrease in overall tank damage with the VIT over STR focus now, however with increases in gear and item levels it'll truly be minor.

I'm not expecting perfection, nor hybrid Tank-DDs, but I am expecting tanky tanks who can hold enmity in defensive stances and still effectively contribute (not outshine) to group DPS in offensive stances. Nothing more, nothing less.

[papichulo123]

With tanks having more health I guess healers can dps more so it evens out with raid damage

[PArcher]

With tanks having more health I guess healers can dps more so it evens out with raid damage

No, not really. Everything is almost certainly (99.999% chance) going to hit harder as well to make up for it (also say goodbye to DPS/healers tanking anything for more than 2 seconds) and it will take more heals to get a tank back to full HP.

Expect both healers needing to heal most of the time, like back in the Coil progression days

[Ashkendor]

it will take more heals to get a tank back to full HP.

Why do people keep bringing this up as if tanks need to be topped off 100% of the time? ._.

[Whiteroom]

Why do people keep bringing this up as if tanks need to be topped off 100% of the time? ._.

I think they are assuming battle design will change with tanks being more tanky. Lots more incomming damage.

[Starkbeaumont]

not a nerf at all if you consider SE had us use VIT stuff anyway. if you used penta melded you already had the best of both worlds. and since they compared the changes to the current str tanks, we might be looking at almost the same numbers a penta melded tank is doing atm