Why can't you see your stats when you finish dung/raids and trials?

[Telsyr]

Still, anyone opting out of this system would be thrown under a lot of suspicion by default for not 'showing' their performance.

I had not fully thought of this possibility, Hrm. Thank you for your timely response.

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While I had not intended it to be a suggestion, I do appreciate your feedback. I would however like to point out that its not entirely impossible to do that now without a parser. Thank you, Andrea, for your input as well.

As for some advice: From what it seems, its pretty unlikely for Pro-Parsers to get what they actually want. From the answers I got some of you on both sides seems more than willing to compromise, you may not get what you want at first, but hey gotta start somewhere.

and on my way out: How many people in-game, across all regions, actually know what a parser is? Numbers might surprise both sides! Bye all!

[Andrea]

and on my way out: How many people in-game, across all regions, actually know what a parser is? Numbers might surprise both sides! Bye all!

This. You would be surprised by the amount of people who are against parsers when asked what they do just simply say, they show numbers.

Im not saying all people against parsers don't understand what they do, but a fair few do.

[Whiteroom]

This. You would be surprised by the amount of people who are against parsers when asked what they do just simply say, they show numbers.

Im not saying all people against parsers don't understand what they do, but a fair few do.

A lot seem to think they are a magical computer program that reaches through the screen and posses users to turn them into hate spewing demons.

[Asmodai]

A lot seem to think they are a magical computer program that reaches through the screen and posses users to turn them into hate spewing demons.

Every once in awhile I look at users who are against parsers lodestone profile and while I cant see the achievements I do notice they have no raid gear. Parsers are not any good in easy content, they dont do anything and they dont help. In a raid setting parsers are essential and those who are so against it just dont get it and I dont think they ever will.

People already use parsers. They might not be able to say, "Well I have parsed you and you suck" but they can say "your dps is low and you suck" and get away with it 100%. Keeping parsers from being an addon or a in game tool does nothing but hurt people who dont use parsers. The lack of support for parsers are not going to get you into a a4s static or stop you from getting kicked from a group.

[Kaurie]

Every once in awhile I look at users who are against parsers lodestone profile and while I cant see the achievements I do notice they have no raid gear. Parsers are not any good in easy content, they dont do anything and they dont help. In a raid setting parsers are essential and those who are so against it just dont get it and I dont think they ever will.

People already use parsers. They might not be able to say, "Well I have parsed you and you suck" but they can say "your dps is low and you suck" and get away with it 100%. Keeping parsers from being an addon or a in game tool does nothing but hurt people who dont use parsers. The lack of support for parsers are not going to get you into a a4s static or stop you from getting kicked from a group.

Parsers can be helpful right from like level 10. They are the most helpful in a raid setting, but they can be used well in easy content.

[Odett]

Every once in awhile I look at users who are against parsers lodestone profile and while I cant see the achievements I do notice they have no raid gear. Parsers are not any good in easy content, they dont do anything and they dont help.

They don't help for you. Some people like to push DPS in whatever content they are doing, and a parser would give us a comparison to how we did last time, as well as test out different opener rotations on bosses, and see what does more damage. A parser would also let me work on my overhealing when I play WHM.

People already use parsers. They might not be able to say, "Well I have parsed you and you suck" but they can say "your dps is low and you suck" and get away with it 100%. Keeping parsers from being an addon or a in game tool does nothing but hurt people who dont use parsers.

I'm not saying it's ok at all for a player to tell you "your dps is low and you suck", but what excuses you, as a DPS, from being held accountable at the same standards that tanks and healers are held by? Being a DPS does not mean that you get a free ride through content. If you notice that your DPS is low when using a parser, maybe it's time to practice. A player who doesn't know better and seeks advice, and one who plays inefficiently out of laziness and stubbornness are 2 different things.If you know you can't play your job and try to purposely hide it, then I'm not going to feel sorry for you when you're kicked from a group.