Why can't you see your stats when you finish dung/raids and trials?

[Asmodai]

If anything I would hate for FFXIV to fall down that path of destruction.

I have to agree with Yoshi's decision to keep a scoreboard out of pve. It is for the best.

FFXIV is one of the most toxic MMO's i have ever played. And I have played almost all of them.

[Odett]

FFXIV is one of the most toxic MMO's i have ever played. And I have played almost all of them.

I, and literally everyone else I know who has played this game and other MMO's think the exact opposite. I really don't mean to offend you here, but if you have perceived to view such a huge amount of players as toxic, maybe there's the chance that you're doing something wrong.

As for the topic at hand, I'm really tired of discussing this, so I'll keep it short. Players who don't try want to keep their heads stuck in the sand, and keep console players who wish to constantly improve by seeing their numbers from doing so. Jerks will be jerks, regardless of these tools, and the majority of arguments against giving players a metric are based on misinformation and fear-mongering.

[RiceisNice]

FFXIV is one of the most toxic MMO's i have ever played. And I have played almost all of them.

Considering how many MMOs there are (literally hundreds), I highly doubt that you have played as many as you claimed for long enough to get a good idea of how players socialize in each and every one of them. Why even bother making that last point when it's obviously untrue?

I, and literally everyone else I know who has played this game and other MMO's think the exact opposite. I really don't mean to offend you here, but if you have perceived to view such a huge amount of players as toxic, maybe there's the chance that you're doing something wrong.

I wouldn't say the most toxic, but it's certainly the first MMO I've seen where people try to defend intentional bad/lazy play in parties And it's also the first MMO I've played that has no way (sanctioned) way of quantifying ingame performance relative to other players. It's a bit more pronounced here when it happens because of the smaller party sizes, and the aforementioned lack of quantifying performance to backup any sort of claims or otherwise hold DDs accountable.