Why can't you see your stats when you finish dung/raids and trials?

[Silica-chan]

It's your sub, but the sub and time of the 3 or the 7 other people in the group holds more importance, and rightly so.

Not to me. But hey 3.2 will fix this for all you people by allowing pre made groups for all roulettes. Can't wait to farm commendations by going into dungeons as healer or tank

[Whiteroom]

Not to me. But hey 3.2 will fix this for all you people by allowing pre made groups for all roulettes. Can't wait to farm commendations by going into dungeons as healer or tank

Are you saying you need all the other tanks and healers to leave so that you can get comms? Are you not doing well enough right now? Is it one of those, "It's not about upping my quality, its about lowering the quality of everyone else so I seem better." things?

[TheUltimateSeph]

Do you actually have any evidence of these statements or are you just talking garbage?

Where is your proof that in game parsers would lead to this? I could claim that in game parsers could turn the game into sunshine and rainbows and give no evidence. Exactly like you have just done.

Heaven forbid people are actually pushed to do damage instead of doing numbers people were doing in 2.x.

Well gee the pro parser crowd seems to glorify them without providing any real evidence as to why they are good. How about taking a look at WoW for some evidence as to why parsers are bad. The numbers people were doing in 2.x are still enough to clear nearly all HW content so why indeed should we push people to do more? Oh wait I know the answer, cause it's rude to waste other people's time. (Sarcastic eye roll)

[Silica-chan]

Are you saying you need all the other tanks and healers to leave so that you can get comms?

Nope DF works really well 5 mins to join as my Monk isn't to bad therefore no reason to use healer or tank. Joining void arc as a tank takes forever for some reason though which is annoying because I want that body armor lol

[Andrea]

The numbers people were doing in 2.x are still enough to clear nearly all HW content so why indeed should we push people to do more? Oh wait I know the answer, cause it's rude to waste other people's time. (Sarcastic eye roll)

Ok, thank you. Learned by one response either you're trolling or just insane.

If you think its ok for someone at 60, who has almost double if not double the stats we had at 50. To do the same damage as someone was doing at 50 then I don't know what to tell you.

Also i love how you sarcastically roll eyes at the wasting peoples time. Yeah, screw those other people in the duty! only I matter! I should be allowed to play an ice mage if I should after all I'm the main character!

How is not wanting to wast peoples time a bad thing? Let me guess its being selfish that people expect others to be competent at their class?

Im gonna go out on a limb and guess you're a "I pay my sub I'll play how I want" person too.

Also how parsers help? theres actually proof of that. Look at the end game scene, most if not all statics use parsers. I highly doubt they are just using them to be sheep or be toxic with them. Clearly they don't help at all.

[Whiteroom]

Nope DF works really well 5 mins to join as my Monk isn't to bad therefore no reason to use healer or tank. Joining void arc as a tank takes forever for some reason though which is annoying because I want that body armor lol

Because the 24 man raids is where fate tanks and healers go to gear up. Why do you think tanks there alway ignore the adds and mechanics. They are used to sitting in around Roc hitting three buttons.

[Odett]

Because the 24 man raids is where fate tanks and healers go to gear up. Why do you think tanks their alway ignore the adds and mechanics. They are used to sitting in around Roc hitting three buttons.

I thought it was because they're constantly failing to take agro in their full Vit build from the person MTing. Tuesday's gonna be a messy day for VA.

[Toguro]

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DCUO was the main game I played before this one. Played for... about 3 years until the Civil War between Devs and Players. I stopped mid-way into the Amazon War DLC. The game was bad with the scoreboard but it got terribad with that DLC. Players were required to do 1.2+ million DPS always or = scrub

Never had trouble with the scoreboard myself. No matter the role, however I've seen plenty of people and read plenty of threads on the forums and stuff.

[Whiteroom]

DCUO was the main game I played before this one. Played for... about 3 years until the Civil War between Devs and Players. I stopped mid-way into the Amazon War DLC. The game was bad with the scoreboard but it got terribad with that DLC. Players were required to do 1.2+ million DPS always or = scrub

Never had trouble with the scoreboard myself. No matter the role, however I've seen plenty of people and read plenty of threads on the forums and stuff.

Those forums are a cesspool anyway. And as you said, civil war between devs and players, thats the heart of what was wrong with that game. I left shortly after it came to light that they intentionally left out some of the traces in time set to sell replay badges. Now I'm not sure I remember the numbers, but wasn't those numbers achievable well before that time? meaning yeah, you wouldn't be pulling your weight below that?

The numbers were always helpful in the groups I ran with. They allowed us to push further and evaluate our runs. It showed when people were perfroming well below what was needed for clearing, and if which healers/tanks were performing.

Anytime someone would try to pad their numbers with AOE and be an butt about it, they were called on it because people knew how to look at it, and understand it for the most part.

The toxic part of the community is already there, the parser does not make them toxic.

Also believing the one sided "poor me" threads on the forums is a little foolhardy. There is always another side, and is usually comical when the other side happens to see the thread.

[Toguro]

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Yeah people were beating those raids before people got everything. Lol replay badges... not gonna talk about those.

Once Weapon Mastery was added to the game, the scoreboard stuff showed it's effect. Because at that point the entire game revolved around Weapon Mastery which just gave big numbers. The role ratio between DPS and non-DPS is bad but in DCUO at that point everyone was DPS. So many DPS... Then certain weapons and powers became FoTM because they did the most DPS. The game revolved around Weapon Mastery and Weapon Mastery revolved around the scoreboard.

Weapon Mastery messed with peoples' minds in terms of how they saw the scoreboard. No the parser didn't make the people toxic but it gave them a reason to "use their toxicity" I guess you could call it.