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    W'fharl Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    Eh, eh, eh? Doga, Unei, Amon, Phelgethon, Xande?
    Those are actual displaced Allagans, not their present-day descendants, and we still have no confirmation on any Garlean claims to the title (though House Darnus makes a pretty strong case). And no, 5000 years isn't nearly enough time to allow for the "everyone's descended from Allag" argument.
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    あっきれた。

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    Rocl Montaigne
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    My eyes might've actually glazed over "descendant." My mistake.
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  3. #13
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    Kai Magnus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    Those are actual displaced Allagans, not their present-day descendants, and we still have no confirmation on any Garlean claims to the title (though House Darnus makes a pretty strong case). And no, 5000 years isn't nearly enough time to allow for the "everyone's descended from Allag" argument.
    Yea, bloodline wise, you need at least twice that amount of time to be a genetic base.

    And 10,000 years is really the theoretical minimum. Some cases may need to be even older.
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  4. #14
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    Kharagan Dotharl
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    Very cool stuff can't wait for more!
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    Aww... for a second there I really was thinking Miqo'te were some sort of rogue experiment made by the allagans because they had the azeyma symbols on the cathedral since they've migrated around mericidia at some point. X(
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    I'm genuinely curious what this means. Do we know anything about this or is this entirely new information?
    Maybe im confuse but not he said more the ess the answer already?

    What people did see was that many of the buildings that were still standing amongst the destruction wrought by the Calamity were covered in these arcane symbols. Many superstitious people took this to mean that they were some kind of wards that protected these structures (not realizing that a lot of buildings with those designs also were destroyed as well)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    I don't know if I should be replying to this thread or if it was intended to be locked - so feel free to move me outta here if need be.

    (What appears to be) confirmation that some (Many!? ALL!?) primals are at their core actual remains of actual living things? That's pretty big! Louisoix... a great sea serpent... the old man of the wood... a heretic saint... the empress of birds... Though I suppose that means Ravana was once something more than hypothetical cultural memories of Phantom Ray and the great escape from Azys Lla... and I suppose it means not all of Shiva's essence remains within Hraesvelgr (who is said to have consumed her)...

    Also, nice weaving of tales to explain the Qarn textures in with the old Allagan Runestones we collected for Rowena. Confirmation that even the early Allagans believed in the Twelve as divine is likewise huge. That all but guarantees that the story is so old that even the Allagans got the exaggerated, deified versions... or there's more than a few grains of truth in there...
    I cant remember the source exactly but Im pretty sure there is flavour text in game that refers to Revana as being a great warrior from Gnath history. Maybe with the Gods of Eld quest? Flavor text on the Burning Eye of Ravana Anakna maybe?
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    Last edited by Belhi; 02-17-2016 at 02:50 PM.

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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    I cant remember the source exactly but Im pretty sure there is flavour text in game that refers to Revana as being a great warrior from Gnath history. Maybe with the Gods of Eld quest?
    Doesn't mean his form isn't based off the Phantom Ray. Its too close to be a coincidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    Doesn't mean his form isn't based off the Phantom Ray. Its too close to be a coincidence.
    Maybe The Allag felled the Mortal Origen of Ravana 5000 years ago, and based the Phantom Ray off of him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fernehalwes View Post
    [...] Qarn was built atop the remnants of something much, much older than the Belah'dian civilization.
    Say what now!? This is the first we've heard of this, right?

    Wonder if this will ever come up in the game itself...I'd love to know more. Anything that digs into civilizations past has my attention.
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