Why is so hard for newbies to learn how to raid?

[RiceisNice]

Raiding is only fun if you party with people who don't have a stick up their butt and treat it like a job (which seems to be most static players, who in my experience have been utterly insufferable more often than not). All of my raid clears have come from playing with friends who happened to be on at the time and wanted to play together. The notion that you need a static or some kind of "dedication" to make it worthwhile is ridiculous, e-peen inflating nonsense.

The fact that you're raiding with the same 7 friends over and over is already a form of commitment/dedication. Even then, does this include the likes of A3s and A4s? The latter is what's proving to be the straw that breaks the back when people have to choose between wanting to get content done or sticking with friends (which either means dropping the game/server together, or finding not-savage to do, and a most of the playerbase leans toward the former from what I've seen/heard)

[Solebound]

Thank you all for your replies. I took the advise that many of you wonderful adventurers gave (starting my own learning pf, asking others in the pf if they are willing to teach etc) Even though i did not get positive results with starting my own pf, I asked raiders who wanted to clear content if they where willing to teach me ( via sending them tells on their pf) they kindly said yes after they cleared their own content. Shortly after, a learning party was looking for my role and I told them I was eager and willing to put in the work and dedication and can take constructive criticism. They invited me into their static so i get to do AS1 tonight! They also invited me to do Thordan Ex that same day. We wiped over and over again to the knights , but that didn't phase us because we where having so much fun laughing and joking. I guess I just needed to get out of my cocoon a little bit and be a little more assertive in what I wanted out of this game. Now I have 7 new friends on a server where i only had one or two tops. So you guys where right it is hard, there are raiders who only have a fixed amount of time and cant help newbies, even if they wanted to and I respect that. However there are people out there who want to make the overall raid community better by teaching the mechanics, giving tips for better rotations. Making people feel comfortable and relaxed once you get into that content. I feel like i have a better understanding of my job now then just running the same two dungeons everyday especially when it comes to cool down usage. All i really had to do was just ask the right people. Once I learn this content and future content I think I'm going to pay it forward by starting up regular learning/training parties so that other people can get into the raiding scene, because thordan is challenging at first but its the most FUN I've had in this game. All someone needs is an opportunity, just like I was given one. Then maybe NA server can be just like the JP servers, which was mentioned by another poster.m

Either way thank you all for your responses. It motivated me to not be so shy.

[Werhusky]

Glad you find your first raidish friends

Good luck and keep on helping other and asking for help.

[Ykronix]

I had a similar problem after moving to a new server and having not made progress. Out of boredom I started making A1S learning parties. Sometimes it filled, sometimes it didn't, but the times it did at the very least we got to experience the first few phases of the fight. Through them I ended up meeting the same group of people and eventually we ended up becoming a sort-of static with people coming in from other statics to help out ours.

Long story short, just take the initiative to start something. Chances are, there are more less-confident people out there waiting to find similar people to work with them, and even if it doesn't happen right away, taking the time to actually try will yield more results than never trying.

[Odett]

I had a similar problem after moving to a new server and having not made progress. Out of boredom I started making A1S learning parties. Sometimes it filled, sometimes it didn't, but the times it did at the very least we got to experience the first few phases of the fight. Through them I ended up meeting the same group of people and eventually we ended up becoming a sort-of static with people coming in from other statics to help out ours.

Long story short, just take the initiative to start something. Chances are, there are more less-confident people out there waiting to find similar people to work with them, and even if it doesn't happen right away, taking the time to actually try will yield more results than never trying.

Yeah, exactly. It's not a process that often happens in one day. Whenever I'm late to content because of a break I took, I'll just set up learning parties. If they don't fill, I'll add the people that joined to my friends list or linkshell. Eventually it will fill, and I'll just keep at it. You can do all these things yourself, it just requires initiative and networking. I'm never going to wait around until a group that has a clear will take me.

Glad everything worked out for you, TC!

[Mithrahn]

The fact that you're raiding with the same 7 friends over and over is already a form of commitment/dedication. Even then, does this include the likes of A3s and A4s? The latter is what's proving to be the straw that breaks the back when people have to choose between wanting to get content done or sticking with friends (which either means dropping the game/server together, or finding not-savage to do, and a most of the playerbase leans toward the former from what I've seen/heard)

You shouldn't assume that RyuRoots only raid with the same 7 friends, because that's very untrue.

I can't say much about myself though, I don't raid myself, not yet, I'm purposely taking things very slowly.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Solebound, I can't tell you how happy I am to hear how things turned out for you!

Now pay it forward. When you look back and see someone struggling to come up, remember where you started, and at least offer to help them.