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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    Honest question - I looked it up and found it interesting. But what does the game use to determine "jobs"? Wasn't it just "Having the job at max level", not necessarily those who main it?
    It's not even as discerning as that. As far as I know, the census numbers counted anyone who had unlocked the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alahra View Post
    It's not even as discerning as that. As far as I know, the census numbers counted anyone who had unlocked the job.
    w-what... xD That's a horrible census then. lol.
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    Valentina Jalenoux
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    Honestly I dislike how much gear design sharing is happening too. Not as anything against or for a specific class, I just think it's going to look janky to see everyone in the same sets. (I understand the tank coat is longer but at a first glance it's very much "Oh hey that's the MNK set.")

    I personally would have preferred to see all of the primals represented (except for one, but I'm not partaking in the beating of that dead horse lol) just for an overall visual diversity.

    My thought is, and I hope I am wrong, that our next set of gear is going to be Titan, Ramuh, Bismarck, and Ravana.

    Though it /did/ just dawn on me that it could be terrible and they could have new scrip gear based on other primals for crafters and gatherers coming in 3.2... though I'd rather not dwell on the thought of new scrip gear ever existing again. ;-;
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    Renard Lefeuvre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    Honest question - I looked it up and found it interesting. But what does the game use to determine "jobs"? Wasn't it just "Having the job at max level", not necessarily those who main it?

    In such a case, both SCH and SMN are heavily skewed because both of them share the same Class. I don't know how reliable this is if it's "Max level in the job" as the requirement.
    Oh absolutely, it's impossible to know. Lucky Bancho's Lodestone scrapes put the figure at around 25% for lv60 healers on average plus however many people play BLM+SMN at that level, and they aren't exactly unpopular DPS jobs. I'm sure there are plenty of career SCHs who never touch SMN and vice versa, but then there are also people like me who level MCH to 60 and forget about it thereafter (after buying its eso gear T_T). Two non-casters are locked behind HW compared to only one caster, and one other non-caster offers no cross-class incentives and is only available after you level a different class first, perhaps becoming attached. It's not really that easy to come up with a fair rule based on ease of access to the job.

    Even if equal numbers of people main each job at endgame - we know this is untrue but I'm going to assume it's S-E's philosophical ideal when balancing things because that makes sense - that yields 38.5% as the figure for people sharing a single gear model (more if you weight the HW jobs differently to reflect the relative difficulty in obtaining them or try to balance for the free second caster all ACNs have access to, though I'll keep it simple as the number is high enough as it is). Irrespective of whether it's their main job, or whether it's their secondary job, or whether they just levelled it for PVP and don't use it to raid, five out of thirteen jobs sharing a single model represents a large number of players all wearing identical gear. Now that five different jobs are sharing rather than four, it's more glaring than it was back in 2.x.

    Two different cloth models in future, please. If they can only design a certain number of sets I'm more than happy to share with MNK and be a half-naked martial arts BLM now and then for variety, or a leather-clad BRD wannabe with frills and spikes. Either gives way more glamour possibilities than 'black version of the healer robe'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serilda View Post
    Two different cloth models in future, please. If they can only design a certain number of sets I'm more than happy to share with MNK and be a half-naked martial arts BLM now and then for variety, or a leather-clad BRD wannabe with frills and spikes. Either gives way more glamour possibilities than 'black version of the healer robe'.
    Take all of my Likes. This is basically what I said in the last thread as well.

    Amusingly, you know what fixed this problem?

    Diadem.

    As much as I don't like the randomized appearance, it did add variety. I ended up with a 210 Daystar Robe for my SCH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    Take all of my Likes. This is basically what I said in the last thread as well.

    Amusingly, you know what fixed this problem?

    Diadem.

    As much as I don't like the randomized appearance, it did add variety. I ended up with a 210 Daystar Robe for my SCH.
    Its just pre-glamoured. you can remove it and have the generic diadem gear
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    I think the census should have went off the role players play the most in instanced content. That would tell people who mains or rather what you play the most as.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolepwned View Post
    Titan armor would be completely nude save for the cloth thong he wears.
    i'd totally wear that
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    Damien Belmont
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    Personally, when primal gear was introduced I said: "Oh crap, don't tell me I am getting Titan as a tank?"

    Here it is, Ifrit. I'd choose a MNK-Ifrit re-skin over an "original" Titan set any time.
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