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    Should SE get rid of party bonuses?

    For those of you who may not be aware, currently the three healers contribute to the following party bonuses:
    • White Mage - Mind
    • Scholar - Piety
    • Astrologian - Piety

    The only job in the game that provides a boost to Mind is White Mage. With main stats being in excess of 1000 with current 3.15 gear, the small boost that party bonuses give can make quite a difference. Essentially, this penalizes any groups that wish to go with a SCH/AST combination, as the lack of Mind directly affects healing output as well as DPS output.

    So this brings us the following questions:

    Do you believe that every stat should be boosted regardless of party composition?
    Do you believe that parties should be overall 'nerfed' and bonuses be abolished?
    Or do you think it is justified for White Mages to keep the Mind bonus as part of what makes them unique?
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    It was suggested in the past in a different thread by someone and I'll restate their comment here:

    It would be nice if you got a MND bonus for having a single healer and both a MND and PIE bonus for having two healers.

    This is pretty much a compromise on your first suggestion but I liked the idea enough to re- introduce it here.

    Overall i do think party stat bonus should be adjusted as a small balance change to the healer meta.
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    I think each each should give both mind and piety
    But half of the currently amount

    So having 2 heal (whatever job) give full mind piety boost
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabzy View Post
    Do you believe that every stat should be boosted regardless of party composition?
    Do you believe that parties should be overall 'nerfed' and bonuses be abolished?
    Or do you think it is justified for White Mages to keep the Mind bonus as part of what makes them unique?
    Party bonus was initially introduced to discourage class stacking, which is pretty dumb anyway because every job post 2.0 bring their own main (potency) stat as a bonus. Every job except tanks (to be changed in patch 3.2) and healers, specifically Astrologian and Scholar.

    As of 3.1, VIT and PIE are wonky stats because they're the only stats that are considered "main" stats while technically occupying a secondary stat slot on left side gear and some right side gear for PIE. I'm aware Fending accessories exist, but they're hitting the floor for a reason. In 3.2, that won't be the case anymore for tanks if SE can do their math right, which leaves us with healers.

    As an aside, I also want to point out that 3.0 completely removed PIE accessories, solidifying PIE as a secondary stat that we won't be able to overmeld in 3.2 because it's still technically considered a main stat. It would be nice if SE could make up their mind because this is a mess.

    I personally think party bonus should either be abolished (because it's a kind of pointless feature that you have no real control over) or it should be adjusted in the following manner, which is the best compromise IMO:
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    It would be nice if you got a MND bonus for having a single healer and both a MND and PIE bonus for having two healers.
    I really don't care either way though. I just think the current situation is unbalanced for no real gameplay reason.
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    Last edited by Kerrigen; 02-16-2016 at 09:31 AM.

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    Oh crap
    It remain me that piety is main stat
    So when 3.2 hit... Overmelding it will be forbidden
    *cry*

    Ok i will go crit then...
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