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    drmambo1999's Avatar
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    Osiris Wrath
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aarik View Post
    Quite a few assumptions there, bud. Please do not assume all summoners play for the sake of pets, I can guarantee you this is exceedingly wrong. And why should it be a priority? Is it a job? Yes. However, as it stands it is an EXCEEDINGLY powerful job with so many benefits it's ridiculous. But you're saying that your pet GLAMOUR should take a higher priority over what I've posted? Over actual job issues? Over stagnating content? You do realize how arrogant that is, right? Furthermore, you do realize that the dev team is way smaller than it should be, and thus has to prioritize issues? You're saying that all the other issues take a back-seat to your precious egi-looks. Because that is what priority means.
    I definitely see you point here, but I think the contention people are having with what you are saying stems more from the fact that this thread was not meant to pull attention away from the classes perks/needs as much as the OP was just stating they feel strongly about the appearance of the egi and would like a change.

    I think there isn't really any harm in calling out for a change in appearance, but I do also agree that the class awesome as it stands now. As longs as the vanity doesn't take priority over a glaring flaw (if any should arise) I am cool with a new look for egis.
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    IRL? What's that? Sounds dreadful!

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    Mael Bess
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aarik View Post
    Priorities.
    You do realize changes can be done and applied at the same time right? Sure, resources will be used on it that could be put to other stuff, but nobody is suggesting a complete summoner overhaul and nobody is saying it should be done yesterday. This is merely a small texture/model/size change some players would like to see, and for what i've seen been asked for a while now, some feedback on planned changes to the egi from SE would be a start.
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    Aurelius Lyon
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    Quote Originally Posted by bass9020 View Post
    You realize people play pet classes for the PETS. Why don't people get that. We are angry because summoner never felt like a summoner class from the very start. Summoner should be a priority because it'a one of the jobs people play. Yes channeling bahamut is cool and all but the egis should be looked at and changed (which they are but we dont know the progress of said change). Jobs are a form of content so don't say they should just be ignored.
    Summoner egis are only an appeal when the job itself doesn't have much pet management aside from pressing 2 buttons to buff your pet, one ability that orders them to do their ultimate attack, and manually pressing pet skills (though I only do it with Garuda for Contagion) You do far more work than the pet does.
    As for why people do not believe FFXIV's SMN isn't a Summoner because their summons are just too small for them (Oooh no!) is just silly.
    It's a Summoner because it can summon an Eidolon (or in here, a Primal's essence) to their will, that simply makes them a Summoner.
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    Yukihko Kuroshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aarik View Post
    What is summoner? It is the most powerful AoE class, period. It is a damn good single-target class. Summoners literally channel and infuse the essence of BAHAMUT into them, which is beyond awesome. Summoners can also be mobile; moving does not butcher your dps near as much as say, BLM. You can also revive, making your class exceedingly useful in dire situations. And yet this thread pops up continuously. Summoners are given so, so much.....yet the Garuda egi is 'ugly' (exceedingly subjective, btw).

    Priorities.
    Before Bahamut we were mostly excluded from content because too slow, too weak and such...
    Now we at least will be considered but because of tight DPS checks mostly ninjas with their buff or dragoons with their buff are taken priority!
    You know: each dmg add helps on DPS checks and BLM is slightly doing better in that...
    Square enix helped a bit with limit slowly filling if you bring 2 BLM, but other than that SMN isnt seen often in statics...
    We are strong, but we can not help others to do more damage and mostly it is much harder to keep our DPS high the entire fight...
    Well, i dont see enemies live long enough to play our DPS to its fullest... they mostly die before 40s pass! (talking from adds) (because when adds die fast, you can do more DPS on boss with DPS checks)
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    Last edited by Yukiko; 02-17-2016 at 04:45 PM.

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    Lithe Rhaelyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aarik View Post
    First off, it must be said; this thread again, really? Priorities seem to be a little skewed, considering how relatively trivial this is.
    Priorities.
    Please. Threads pop up asking for worse things (glamours put into the mogstation for one). I'd give up egi glamour if it meant we would get more content, but it wont. so I don't see any reason to not keep asking for it. c:
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    Artemios Ambrosios
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithe View Post
    Please. Threads pop up asking for worse things (glamours put into the mogstation for one). I'd give up egi glamour if it meant we would get more content, but it wont. so I don't see any reason to not keep asking for it. c:
    Plus I am quite new to this forum, so I didn't know this thread was redundant. It just shows that a lot of people hate how the egis look. Until they change them, this thread will pop out for ever.
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    Cidel Paratonnerre
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aarik View Post
    Priorities.
    Priorities like flying Adamantoises and Hoarhounds, right?

    I'll admit though, asking the devs to "re-do" one or two of the egis is a little bit much when I think far more people are likely waiting for Ramuh, Leviathan and Shiva- which is already low on the dev's "priorities" list, more so demanding current ones to change. But I also really wish people would stop with this "how dare you SMNs keep pestering the forums with your new egi glamour requests" mentalities; SMNs had been told they'd get new egis in the expansion which was retracted some time later when the devs inevitably realized they'd have to balance each and every one of them. In an attempt to placate us they mentioned glamour skins on egis instead which, when pressed on the issue, it (last we've heard) is apparently going to take a lot of work to model n' stuff. It's only normal for the SMNs to be asking for an update or timeframe on when we'll be seeing these glamours (because having just 3 summons was the norm across many games which included Summoners, right?)

    I realize the thread is asking about redesigns of what we have, but if given the choice between remaining 3 primal glamours or a completely new Garuda (and apparently Titan), I'll go with diversity over still having the 3 traffic stoplight flavors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cidel View Post
    But I also really wish people would stop with this "how dare you SMNs keep pestering the forums with your new egi glamour requests" mentalities
    TY! We only want what was promised to us a while ago. c: I'm still hoping Ramuh egi will just be a floating beard.
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    Shamo Lomenzo
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    I, personally, never understood why people hated the egis so much. They look perfectly fine to me. Never really thought egi glamours were necessary either.

    To each their own I guess, but I still find it a waste of time/resources to be making glamours for just one class/job.
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    Ezra Altair
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    Tonberry
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    It really doesn't bother me, the current appearance of Egis. I wouldn't oppose making them look like the new primal minions they made. Maybe a little too cute for some but they could always increase the size of them or something. The new Titan one they showed recently does look much better than McNugget Egi.
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