Classes vs Jobs status?

[dinnertime]

I don't think anyone's saying that SMN or SCH failed, just the concept of having a class being split into two. For reasons I mentioned above, as well as the bonus attributes thing.

Yeah, edited to add that at the same time you posted. Still, SCH didn't really fail as a job but SMN actually did and the other points you made with buffing ACN skills being a problem that would make SCH even more powerful, which I think was the biggest issue about it as well.

[Kabzy]

Yeah, edited to add that at the same time you posted. Still, SCH didn't really fail as a job but SMN actually did which I think was the biggest issue about it as well.

That could be seen as subjective though. It wasn't ideal but good SMNs could still complete FCoB without being a hinderance to their teams. Not to mention the extra utilities they brought via Resurrection / SuperVirus. It was a safer option to bring a BLM, but I wouldn't say SMNs failed by any means. It was just the concept of not being able to buff one job without it affecting the other which failed, in my opinion.

[dinnertime]

That could be seen as subjective though. It wasn't ideal but good SMNs could still complete FCoB without being a hinderance to their teams. Not to mention the extra utilities they brought via Resurrection / SuperVirus. It was a safer option to bring a BLM, but I wouldn't say SMNs failed by any means. It was just the concept of not being able to buff one job without it affecting the other which failed, in my opinion.

I just really believe it was a weak job in 2.x. While they have more room for mistakes and mobility than BLM and the utilities, I still think BLM is a much better option because of their high DPS and infinite MP. I suppose saying that SMN failing in 2.x is quite harsh but I guess I'd call it as a weak job at the time...but not anymore.