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    Quote Originally Posted by skeletonfingers View Post
    Just out of curiosity, how many MMO's have you played that deleted any housing items of yours while you were away for an extended period of time? I can name 6 MMOs with housing I play casually that do not delete my stuff in this way. Many of them are F2P.

    It's silly and destructive. I don't see how anyone can actually defend it as if it makes perfect sense and is the right way to do things.
    You're wasting your time. This debate is very old around here, and anyone who is actually okay with how the housing is will not change their mind. I'd suggest you just write off FFXIV and stick to one of your other MMOs, because this is what the XIV community accepts and expects now. It's blasphemy to imply that a free game can do housing better, despite the fact that there are clear examples that they can, and we should all be happy that this subscription-based MMO with a cash shop gives us any housing at all.
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    In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neira View Post
    You're wasting your time. This debate is very old around here, and anyone who is actually okay with how the housing is will not change their mind. I'd suggest you just write off FFXIV and stick to one of your other MMOs, because this is what the XIV community accepts and expects now. It's blasphemy to imply that a free game can do housing better, despite the fact that there are clear examples that they can, and we should all be happy that this subscription-based MMO with a cash shop gives us any housing at all.
    No.

    It's just some of us recognize that new wards are coming in 3.3 and private instanced housing in 3.4. Adding FC private quarters was a stop-gap measure and is not a perfect solution, but there's nothing that you could change to FC rooms that wouldn't be fixed with the changes coming in 3.3 and 3.4. So there's no point petitioning for a game design change: they're coming but they don't happen overnight. Just be patient about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaitlanKela View Post
    No.

    It's just some of us recognize that new wards are coming in 3.3 and private instanced housing in 3.4. Adding FC private quarters was a stop-gap measure and is not a perfect solution, but there's nothing that you could change to FC rooms that wouldn't be fixed with the changes coming in 3.3 and 3.4. So there's no point petitioning for a game design change: they're coming but they don't happen overnight. Just be patient about it.
    Which doesn't address the issue of the game deleting your stuff. Which is what this thread is about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    Which doesn't address the issue of the game deleting your stuff. Which is what this thread is about.
    Respectfully disagree.

    More wards = purchase your own home which would not be tied to a FC.

    Instanced private housing = same as above, this time such that plots are available for everyone on a server, not just on a first come first serve basis. They probably also have the advantage of being the same price as an FC room, assuming that they are the same size and function the same way.

    If you're concerned still about the 45 day reclaim feature, I would say that's an entirely separate issue. Whether or not you are subbed or login ot visit your housing is 100% in your control and your choice. Having a room disappear because the FC disbanded, there's nothing you can do about that you're at the mercy of your FC leadership. Separate issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaitlanKela View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Neira View Post
    You're wasting your time. This debate is very old around here, and anyone who is actually okay with how the housing is will not change their mind. I'd suggest you just write off FFXIV and stick to one of your other MMOs, because this is what the XIV community accepts and expects now. It's blasphemy to imply that a free game can do housing better, despite the fact that there are clear examples that they can, and we should all be happy that this subscription-based MMO with a cash shop gives us any housing at all.

    No.

    It's just some of us recognize that new wards are coming in 3.3 and private instanced housing in 3.4. Adding FC private quarters was a stop-gap measure and is not a perfect solution, but there's nothing that you could change to FC rooms that wouldn't be fixed with the changes coming in 3.3 and 3.4. So there's no point petitioning for a game design change: they're coming but they don't happen overnight. Just be patient about it.
    Sorry to tell what I read is Neira knows the history but you don't...^^;
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    Last edited by Nicobo; 02-17-2016 at 11:26 AM. Reason: 1000