The Mentoring Requirements... *Rant Style*

[Jetstream_Fox]

I think this system will crash and burn very fast and in a very unapologetical way. As it has been stated under no circumstances does someone who wants to play as a career BLM need to know about the tanking process or a tank needing to know how to play as a SMN. The restriction on needing all 3 areas of war at 60 has to be the biggest joke I've heard, not only does it blatantly tell people they're not good enough it's playing off a false sense of experience being level 60. But sadly, there are people on this website that defend this idea, these same people who are oblivious to the fact this website has a massive thread about the horrible player interactions they've experienced in the game at all levels possible in the duty finder. I seriously don't think I'll ever understand this community.

Instead of making this horrible idea horrible they could have done it so much better by paring players who pick the starter class for each job and pair them with it's respective job. So if you wanted to MNK you pick PUG you'd only be mentored by a MNK. Given you only have 40 hours to mentor this player they're not going to even fully grasp ALL 3 areas of war in this game by the time they get their 30 job. At that point the player being mentored should have been through enough dungeons and fates plus played the cross class requirement for the job to have a understanding on how the game is played at that particular time.

[Reisui]

I think this system will crash and burn very fast and in a very unapologetical way. As it has been stated under no circumstances does someone who wants to play as a career BLM need to know about the tanking process or a tank needing to know how to play as a SMN. The restriction on needing all 3 areas of war at 60 has to be the biggest joke I've heard, not only does it blatantly tell people they're not good enough it's playing off a false sense of experience being level 60. But sadly, there are people on this website that defend this idea, these same people who are oblivious to the fact this website has a massive thread about the horrible player interactions they've experienced in the game at all levels possible in the duty finder. I seriously don't think I'll ever understand this community.

Instead of making this horrible idea horrible they could have done it so much better by paring players who pick the starter class for each job and pair them with it's respective job. So if you wanted to MNK you pick PUG you'd only be mentored by a MNK. Given you only have 40 hours to mentor this player they're not going to even fully grasp ALL 3 areas of war in this game by the time they get their 30 job. At that point the player being mentored should have been through enough dungeons and fates plus played the cross class requirement for the job to have a understanding on how the game is played at that particular time.

You see this system wrongly, it's not about learning everything of the class/job they took, but a general aspect of the game. Also, if we go by your rule, how will healers and tanks help new healers and tanks in dungeons? If you go in a dungeon as a heal, you cannot mentor another healer, since he's not there.

And I think that you need to know at-least the basics of every role, how could you function well in a group. A MNK having a tank that always moves must be so hateful right? But if that tank never played a DPS role, he cannot really know there are positionals, he doesn't know what pain it is if the tank always move.

[RyuRoots]

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Oh look, another player who doesn't meet the reqs and thinks the reqs are horrible. I'm seeing a recurring pattern. Why you need all three roles has been explained repeatedly, and if you still don't get it then no amount of tutoring can help you at this point. I also have no idea how you somehow take "people have bad experiences in Duty Finder" and end up with that inexplicably invalidating the mentor system requiring high level (and thus, generally experienced) players. I also have to laugh at "blatantly tell people they're not good enough". Insecure much? Only as much as you're "not good enough" to run Gubal Library at level 41. It's the bar they set, and you meet it or you don't. Seriously though, just...think about it for a minute. ACTUALLY think about it, the role requirement thing. If you tried that instead of just telling yourself how right you are about your anger, maybe you'd understand what people are telling you.

[Jetstream_Fox]

Oh look, another player who doesn't meet the reqs and thinks the reqs are horrible. I'm seeing a recurring pattern. Why you need all three roles has been explained repeatedly, and if you still don't get it then no amount of tutoring can help you at this point. I also have no idea how you somehow take "people have bad experiences in Duty Finder" and end up with that inexplicably invalidating the mentor system requiring high level (and thus, generally experienced) players. I also have to laugh at "blatantly tell people they're not good enough". Insecure much? Only as much as you're "not good enough" to run Gubal Library at level 41. It's the bar they set, and you meet it or you don't. Seriously though, just...think about it for a minute. ACTUALLY think about it, the role requirement thing. If you tried that instead of just telling yourself how right you are about your anger, maybe you'd understand what people are telling you.

Did you read?

The game locks players out of this glorified linkshell based off of a level requirement of each war class at level 60, have 1000 dungeons/raids ran and at least 300 commendations. Do you know how you get those two requirements? Through the Duty Finder. Do you know how you meet the level 60 in each category? Through Fates and the Duty Finder. Again my reference to the post about Duty Finder moments is to point out there is a vast area of players at level 60 WHO DON'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY. Yet these players will have the opportunity to teach a new player harmful habits.

I play BRD at 60 and DRK at 60, not to mention a 57 NIN, 50 PLD, 50 SCH and have a 50 DRG, have 700 commendations mostly as DPS and have ran roughly 2000 instances. But please tell me how I can't speak to new players on how to effectively play this game or teach them how to glamor, or how to dye gear, how to read the map, how to map link, how to go into the system config and move around hot/crossbars, how to make the chat box bigger, how to remove or show additional info boxes, how to display enemy health as a percent, how to make a linkshell, show them how to change text color, show them around the maps and get them the ability to teleport, explain what shout, tell, say and yell are for, how to setup a Party Finder, explain what retainers do or what GC seals are used for.

I pass the requirements of this system except for a level 60 healing class. But please enlighten me how I can't help a new player learn all the things I said above ALL because I don't have a 60 healer. THAT is what I meant when this system so stupidly designed is telling players they aren't good enough to teach people core basics of this game.

[Odett]

Did you read?

Yeah, we read, and if you go back a few pages, you'll understand why leveling a healer is important in the grand scheme of things, that way we don't have to regurgitate what we've already posted. Your posts still yell "the requirements are stupid because I don't meet them!" If you don't meet the reqs. now, just go level up a healer to 60. It's not like you'll be locked out of being a mentor if you don't meet the requirements on day one.