The Mentoring Requirements... *Rant Style*

[MeiUshu]

@Blatant

I agree so much with you in this. Exactly my feelings expressed in a diplomatic way.

[l---------------l]

Erhm...I have the requirement in two characters.... They are not that hard?...

There's a reason for everything, I think your OP message is too salty.

As an all-arounder and one all-60 (Who didn't norther thanalan, and who can use all jobs with a really good degree of proficiency) I tell you, having all 60, GIVES YOU more than the basics and knowledge..... You can say you are an awesome DRG just by having your DRG leveled, but, you are UNABLE to understand the other roles, you didn't have to be in their place. You don't understand your tank or your healer or your caster, and because you don't understand them, you are less companion, you understand less some of the reasonings under the mechanics....

You understand way more about everything when you have been playing with all the roles, especially in the serious-raid ambient. I still thinking, yeah, maybe if you use all jobs, good, you become just a jack of all trades, maybe, but, I still think that it's not possible to become the best in your job if you didn't taste other roles.

And, perhaps, SE wants mentor people that can show the basics of everything to someone, not a DRG specialist that can be only mentor of DRG. Would you be a decent mentor if a new player asks you "So, sensei, how's healing here? Is too hard? Is it funny? And tanking?" What would you reply to that, what experience did you got to avail you?.


(Also, for comms... I got 2600+ in one char, 300+ in another... And I'm super quiet. Sometimes, what gives you the comm is not to spam a "Hello everyone *insert moogle picture here* :3 !" macro at the beginning and a "Thanks for the lovely party! ♥ " macro at the end, no, sometimes what gives you the commend is to fight with competence and serious skill. Or at least, don't be doing auto-attacks and a few random GCD like 50% of DF does... I always go and do my stuff 100% of my capacity in battle, and, even if I'm quiet, some people can see that, that I'm putting effort to make this a speedrun. )

[ChocoFeru]

The mentoring requirements.. sigh*

I'll give you my opinion!

300 Commendations
Commendations can be farmed and random, but it's just a filter to make sure you queued with other players, rather than queuing with premades. Why would you want to be a mentor of random people if you didn't even play with random people?
Also 300 commends is a very very low number!

Lv60 Healer, DPS, and Tank
You need to know ALL perspectives of this game. You may be a good DRG, but you've gotta know when you're wasting the healer's MP or you're disturbing the tank. So you've gota experience all the sides, because when you're a mentor you have to give tips to everyone, not just the DRG (if there is any).

1,000 Instanced Dungeons or Trials
With 1000 dungeons you should be aware about how this game works, with all many different mechanics. 1000 is a good number.



Being a mentor is not "just a feature". You need the experience and the ability to answer any questions about any mechanic, any job, anything. You might feel good enough, but no, you need the experience. You can always get ready before patch 3.2 if you really would like to be a mentor.

[Saiah]

Whats that people who cant become mentors? You'll have to speak up! I can't hear you through the engine sound of my golden magitek.

*flies off as her best gown ever flaps in the wind*

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Whats that people who cant become mentors? You'll have to speak up! I can't hear you through the engine sound of my golden magitek.

*flies off as her best gown ever flaps in the wind*

*Comes to salute the peasants mounted in the giant fat chocobo with a crown* "Heh? 300 commends is too much? Hmm... Wait, really? You can ge that in less than a month I think?... Come on, you want to get mentors in less than a month?"

[Aaliyahrose]

If I ever see someone doing something horrbily wrong on their job, I never mind giving advice to make them better in a dungeon. I mean...the quicker they learn now the sooner we will be out of the dungeon right???

And btw...it's SENPAI...not SEMPAI...sorry to be the spelling nazi of the thread. >.>

[jazo]

If I ever see someone doing something horrbily wrong on their job, I never mind giving advice to make them better in a dungeon. I mean...the quicker they learn now the sooner we will be out of the dungeon right???

And btw...it's SENPAI...not SEMPAI...sorry to be the spelling nazi of the thread. >.>

Dunno, internet lingo uses it indistinctly

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sempai

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=senpai

[Judah_Brandt]

Finally, a distinction that separates us super-casuals from the dirty, lower class plebian casual. Can't wait to tell all the sprouts not to listen to the un-crowned yuppies wandering around trying to help them.

At this point I've stopped taking this thread seriously, I actually feel embarrassed that I even did so in the first place. You've got people who purposefully feel singled-out by a system that's supposed to be for the good of the community, somehow making it about themselves rather than the new players. Feeling jilted because of the limited metrics they had to use and what made the most sense is ridiculous. You can still help a player out regardless of whether you've got some icon next to your name or not.

Let's all just try and make the game a better place, y'all.

[BlatantPyre]

Finally, a distinction that separates us super-casuals from the dirty, lower class plebian casual. Can't wait to tell all the sprouts not to listen to the un-crowned yuppies wandering around trying to help them.

At this point I've stopped taking this thread seriously, I actually feel embarrassed that I even did so in the first place. You've got people who purposefully feel singled-out by a system that's supposed to be for the good of the community, somehow making it about themselves rather than the new players. Feeling jilted because of the limited metrics they had to use and what made the most sense is ridiculous. You can still help a player out regardless of whether you've got some icon next to your name or not.

Let's all just try and make the game a better place, y'all.

This is why this system will back-fire so quickly...

Right now, the hostile environment in this game doesn't really come into play until you reach lvl 50. With this new system, it's now shoved into the ears of all new players. Many new MMO players will be overwhelmed by the "I rule, so listen up or die, little person" mentality, and will unsub. SE will then be forced to undo the system just to keep new players.