The Mentoring Requirements... *Rant Style*

[Reisui]

As a career healer I *could* level a tank and dps to 60 running fates and really not doing much with them, but why should I have to do that to mentor as a healer? They clearly have not given mentoring enough thought. Too many of their decisions are rather easy to pick apart as being flawed so it makes me wonder just what goes on in meetings sometimes.

Well tbh, if you just have a healer, thus you would be a mentor for person who want's to heal, how are you going to do a roulette with them since 4 man content is 1 healer?

Leveling the three roles give you a view of them, but will also make it possible for you to assist the new players in a dungeon.

[CosmicKirby]

I believe a witty English author once said it best,

It is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it... anyone who is capable of getting themselves made a mentor in a silly online game should on no account be allowed to do the job.

I might be paraphrasing a bit though.

[gamersince1976]

I believe a witty English author once said it best,

Originally Posted by Douglas Adams
It is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it... anyone who is capable of getting themselves made a mentor in a silly online game should on no account be allowed to do the job.

I might be paraphrasing a bit though.

This requires more upboats than I can give. Thank you.

And I ALWAYS keep my towel handy.

[Vivi_Bushido]

I'll just be honest. If I was a noob, I would just want to be told the best rotation period straight forward from the get go. Someone who has the mentality it's just a game do whatever you want including be an Ice Mage is not fit to be a mentor. The requirements should be strict to prevent terrible mentors.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Alahra hit the nail on the head. The system isn't about properly teaching someone up to level 60, or ensuring they know proper DRG rotation at 60 or ensuring they become a good <job>. It's about being a reliable resource for new players.

"I want to be a Ninja. Where do I find the NIN guild?"
"What stat do I put my points in for Thaumaturge?"
"Hey that gear is cool! Where can I get one?"
"I have to run [instance] for the story.Where do I find it?"
"I wanna make my own armor. What crafting job do I pick?"

These are more likely the questions that will be more frequently asked, and in answering them, you can establish a rapport with the newer player, making them a LOT more willing to listen later on when it comes to more intermediary/advanced gameplay aspects.

In areas where the game does not fully explain things or hold your hand, it's up to the community to take care of the rest. Being a mentor is about being a reliable, trustworthy resource for such occasions.

[MeiUshu]

snip.

this should be the way to go,but the implementation of the Mentor roulette doesnt go in that direction. To give those advice you also dont need a Mentor status, anyone that is a NIN ( for example) can say where to find what, anyone that has done all the things way up to 60 know the answer and wehre to find what. it doesnt require a title to do that.

As for rotation, how many that are at 60 dont know proper ways to play their class ? too many dont and you would like those to give advice ?

I still maintain that we will see more and more toxicity in the normal dungeons where people will look down to new and tell them to go and seek a mentor out and be kicked from dungeons, this is probably the worst idea in this game that has been promoted together with the kick option.

Maybe I am wrong, I HOPE I am wrong but I doubt so very much. Too many self entitled people.

Besides, people should be well aware that if you are a Mentor you are not just a Mentor a day or a minute, you are a Mentor in out and everywhere and I doubt people are mature enough for such, this is seriously going to be quickly a problem, and I give it two weeks before we see a thread in here about that.

In theory the idea is good but in truth is just a can of worms that shoudl never be opened.

[xLucia]

The simplest answer would be, you simply cant please everyone. This is how they designed it. They have their reasons for doing it like this. Only testing this out will decide wether or not these reasons are good & realistic. Just suck it up. If you've tried it and then decide it sucks, then you can rant :P But it's really pointless to get pissed off before it even came out.

[MeiUshu]

The simplest answer would be, you simply cant please everyone. This is how they designed it. Suck it up, and try it out before u start ranting. If you've tried it and then decided it sucks, then you can rant :P But it's really pointless to get pissed off before it even came out.

some of us have been around long enough to understand how it will go and this is not dificult to foresee the result. Once it is in place, is too late to change something though, by voicing beforehand our concernes some of us hope that something can be done before it is actually too late.

Dont you think this a reasonable way to go about ?

[xLucia]

some of us have been around long enough to understand how it will go and this is not dificult to foresee the result. Once it is in place, is too late to change something though, by voicing beforehand our concernes some of us hope that something can be done before it is actually too late.

Dont you think this a reasonable way to go about ?

I suppose but even then its impossible to please everyone. Lets say they listen and changes are made. Some people will hate these changes and will still complain. Thats why I say just try it first.