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Thread: Stone, Sky, Sea

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    Stone, Sky, Sea

    Yoshi-P/Square Enix/Dev Team, this is a blatant snabbing in the back to ps4 users because it is saying that you made a dummy to test your dps to see if you have the dps for a fight but then you are saying were sorry but we are not making a parsing unit for ps4 players. If parsers are illegal in the game then pc users should not have the capability of installing a parsing unit to the game and the ones that already have one installed to be disabled immediately. End of story
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    You can't stop people from modding the game or using a 3rd party tool, so I find it quite silly that you think Square should "disable" the ability to do so when even they struggle to deal with RMTs. Parsers are against the TOS, but Square is on a "don't ask, don't tell" policy; as long as you are not announcing that you are using a parser or are using a parser to harass players, do what you will. Don't give parsing a bad name just because consoles can't use add ons.
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    I wonder what the "Stone, Sky, Sea." will served as it's "Instances" and only the person know they will passed it. Sure, it will help their rotation and DPS, but they are just standing still hitting a dummy.

    What does it served for people who want a DPS that passed the DPS Dummy? They can just lied and said "Yeah, I passed it." There is no ways to tell if they indeed did passed it or not.

    The only ways they could make it work is to make it an Achievement or Title for passing it.
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    I like the idea but I don't see it being a big help. You can DPS a dummy or parse someone at a dummy, sure they may hit high but when they are under pressure from mobs, attacks, AOEs, you get no real indication of how they are doing, those are the times the Blackmage may lose his Enochain or other such instances.
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    Last edited by AlphaFox; 02-14-2016 at 02:29 AM.

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    It's there to tell you if you have the DPS for that instance a parser can't do that. It's up to you to try and adjust yourself to the instance so you can carry out that DPS.
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    Last edited by Remus; 02-14-2016 at 02:44 AM.

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    There is a 3 minute timer on these fights. If you can kill it within the time limit then it means your dps is high enough for the corresponding encounter.

    The entire point of this content is so that you can gauge your own dps without using a parser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaFox View Post
    I like the idea but I don't see it being a big help. You can DPS a dummy or parse someone at a dummy, sure they may hit high but when they are under pressure from mobs, attacks, AOEs, you get no real indication of how they are doing, those are the times the Blackmage may lose his Enochain or other such instances.
    Even a parser will not teach you mechanics, nor will it tell you "job x did # dps because avoiding mechanic 3"

    The task of the dummies is to check if at least your basic dps is high enough.
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    Last edited by Felis; 02-14-2016 at 02:44 AM.

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    There an interview with Yoshi P about this

    http://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/...mentor-system/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seisha View Post
    There an interview with Yoshi P about this

    http://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/...mentor-system/
    wrong thing. mentor=/= stone,sky,sea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaze3434 View Post
    wrong thing. mentor=/= stone,sky,sea.
    oh yeah
    They do talk about the hall of this novice too, got confused with that.
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